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Offline popeTopic starter

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Re: Voltage selector wiring using faston - Am I missing something?
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2024, 12:38:59 pm »
I’ll add that if you just need to crimp a few, and your application can tolerate the occasional failed crimp which you have to cut off and redo, it’s likely not worth the cost of the locator. If your application cannot tolerate failure (e.g. if you need to crimp to short wires that have zero excess) or you need to do lots of them, locators are well worth it.

Thanks. I need to do quite a few and I'd rather spend a bit more and be on the safe side.

BTW, is there any other brand/ model that I could look into? Just for comparison really. since knipex is the first I came across. Knowing my luck, there's almost always a better solution with similar cost/ performance ratio  :)
 

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Re: Voltage selector wiring using faston - Am I missing something?
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2024, 06:16:50 pm »
Not really, without resorting to the $$$ stuff from TE, etc.

Several other tool manufacturers that focus on electrical tools or components (Weidmüller, Phoenix Contact, Vogt, Greenlee, etc.) sell crimp tools, but they’re no cheaper than Knipex (and some may in fact be rebadged Knipex), so I don’t see much point in it.

FYI, if you encounter the Rennsteig brand, that’s Knipex’s subsidiary that actually makes their crimp tools. So if you should encounter the equivalent Rennsteig tool for less money than the Knipex, go for it! It’ll just be black and green instead of blue and red. :P

However, one very happy way to get the $$$ TE/AMP tools (or other major manufacturers like Molex) for $ is to get them on eBay (or local equivalent) or classifieds. I’ve managed to get multiple $$ crimp tools ($300-500 each) for $60-120 brand new in box, and a $700 DMC indent crimper used for $150. The downside is that this may require patience. Since Fastons have been around since forever, I expect there are a lot of the tools on eBay, as long as you’re OK with the tool looking kinda beat up, and the time needed to search the listings.

Finally, I will say that Fastons used with thicker wire (perhaps 16AWG and up) are among the most forgiving crimp contacts, so one of the best Chinese crimpers (like IWISS) will usually do an OK job on them. (I’ve had less consistent results with thinner wires.) But you won’t have a locator, and it’s a bit of a crapshoot whether a given tool will produce good results, or produce them consistently. (I’ve largely written off Chinese crimpers, as I have come to value my time and sanity — and the satisfaction of a good tool — over saving a buck.)
 
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Re: Voltage selector wiring using faston - Am I missing something?
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2024, 06:22:18 pm »
Great info. Thanks  :-+
 

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Re: Voltage selector wiring using faston - Am I missing something?
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2024, 04:09:29 am »
If you come across the TE/Amp "midrange" tool 59824-1, it's an amazing piece of kit. It handles a much wider range of terminals than their "high end" stuff, so it's pretty much the only crimp tool you need for fastons, rings, etc., if you stick with TE's PIDG line. And it's fully UL approved, which is strong evidence that it's going to give great results.

Unfortunately the price has doubled (I think) in the last few years, so it's not the bargain it used to be. And the specimens on eBay, last I looked, were unimpressive. But if you come across one that looks tempting, go for it!
 
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