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Title: what is a indian bead?
Post by: coppercone2 on October 04, 2024, 07:15:08 pm
my hp meter has a 'indian bead' specified in the errata. It disintegrated during disassembly.

Is this just a insulator?  It says it prevents the ferrite from touching the case. But does it do anything RF wise?
Title: Re: what is a indian bead?
Post by: Wallace Gasiewicz on October 04, 2024, 07:30:21 pm
Have not hear them called "indian" but I have seen small plastic beads used as insulators or spacers in some old HP equipment.  The ones I saw are hard and almost clear.  Definitely just insulators or spacers.
Title: Re: what is a indian bead?
Post by: Stray Electron on October 04, 2024, 07:49:35 pm
my hp meter has a 'indian bead' specified in the errata. It disintegrated during disassembly.

Is this just a insulator?  It says it prevents the ferrite from touching the case. But does it do anything RF wise?

   It sounds like a plain plastic bead that was used to space the base of a part (such as a power transistor) up and away from the metal chassis or through the CENTER of a larger hole in a metal heat sink.  If so then it shouldn't have any effect on the circuit.

   I've never heard the insulators called Indian beads but I'm sure that that is a reference to the brightly colored European manufactured beads that the early Dutch, French, Spanish and English traders used to trade to the American Indians.
Title: Re: what is a indian bead?
Post by: floobydust on October 04, 2024, 07:55:19 pm
That it disintegrated implies it was organic?
I go to the local hippy bead store if I need spacers. Most are glass.
Title: Re: what is a indian bead?
Post by: TimFox on October 04, 2024, 08:03:30 pm
Sometimes the spacer beads are ceramic, if temperature is a problem.
Here is an Indian source for what are normally called "fish-spine" beads (because of how they stack for longer wires): https://in.misumi-ec.com/vona2/detail/222005942938/?HissuCode=RG-4#
These beads allow reasonable flexing for a wire inside them, as the curved surfaces articulate.
Title: Re: what is a indian bead?
Post by: coppercone2 on October 04, 2024, 09:53:14 pm
it looked like a blue doughnut and it cracked into many pieces is what I mean. I thought it was glass-like. Fell on the floor somewhere as usual

I can just cut a segment of teflon tube instead if its just a insulator. I thought it might have been a complimentary ferrite type

I never saw multiple materials stacked up together, but its possible
Title: Re: what is a indian bead?
Post by: Sacodepatatas on October 04, 2024, 11:52:03 pm
Maybe nothing to do, but some months ago I'd read the english version of a chinese paper about a MCU core and then I saw SFR_Indian_Addr. Maybe it was a bad translation of the SFR_Indirect_Addr label in chinese.
Title: Re: what is a indian bead?
Post by: 44kgk1lkf6u on October 05, 2024, 03:25:51 am
If it is not attracted to magnets, then it is not ferrite.