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What is the best flyback diode for inductive load?
« on: July 25, 2021, 02:45:17 pm »
I just watched the latest video of eevblog and in there he just really used an ordinary diode,


It got me wondering what would be the best type of diode to be a flyback for inductive load. If its not as clear cut what are the popular and reliable ones? Zener? schottkey? Tvs? Movs? Unidirectional? bidirectional?
 

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Re: What is the best flyback diode for inductive load?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2021, 03:09:52 pm »
For doing what?  Like clamping a relay coil or the like?

Note that the diode handles exactly equal or less current than the forward switch current.  So, I always find it amusing for example when people put 1N4001 (30A peak rectifier) above a 2N3904 (struggles to sink even 200mA, typically used under 100).  Even a 1N4148 is technically overkill there.

As for "best", you need to define more requirements.  Maybe a zener/TVS is better, maybe a two-switch configuration is better.  There are a number of common options for driving coils, and if not coils then motors, SMPS, etc.  There is, and can be, no one "best".

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Re: What is the best flyback diode for inductive load?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2021, 03:46:06 pm »
If all you care about is clamping the turn-off voltage to a safe level than it doesn't really matter all that much as long as the parts are used within their ratings. Sometimes you care about the time it takes to dissipate the energy stored in the coil, and then you care more specifically about what that voltage is, because initially the current through the clamp is equal to the operating current of the coil, so allowing a higher clamped voltage means more power which means it takes less time to dissipate the coil energy, and a lower clamped voltage means the current continues flowing longer.  This is sometimes referred to as 'decay mode', low voltage provides slow decay, and high voltage provides fast decay.

So for example, in a power conversion application where you care about efficiency, a Schottky or an active switch arrangement that provides minimal voltage is better, because you want to maintain that circulating current in the inductor to reduce the downslope of the ripple current and avoid giving up too much of that energy.  Same with PWMing an inductive load, you're injecting energy during the on period, and a low clamping voltage allows you to have a longer off-period/lower duty cycle because more energy stays in the load. 

On the other hand, sometimes you want to dump that energy as fast as possible. For example in a solenoid actuator (of any kind, including those in relays), the actuator releases when the magnetic field collapses past a certain level, and field is determined by the current through the inductor.  So if you want a fast release, you need to reduce that current quickly, and might want to use a TVS, a bridge driver, or even a resistor in series with a diode (since you know the initial decay current is equal to the operating current, you can set the initial clamping voltage through ohm's law).  Whether or not this electrical speedup is significant compared to the mechanical speed of the actuator depends on the application.

I've done solenoid drivers that need both modes: slow decay to enable efficient pwm for peak-and-hold driving (applying a high power pulse to initially actuate the solenoid, then dropping to a lower power via PWM to hold it in place), and fast decay to allow a faster release.  A quasi-full bridge driver with a high side switch and diode to ground on one side and a low side switch and diode to positive supply or a dump resistor to ground on the other can do that and is easy to drive. Turning on one switch and PWMing the other gets you slow decay and turning off both switches allows the coil voltage to rise to full reverse supply voltage (or whatever you set via the resistor) for fast decay.  You could also actively drive both sides of the coil for more control but that's more complicated.  Some motor drivers have this functionality built-in as part of their current control scheme, since they have internal current sensing anyway it's a lot easier to put this functionality on-chip than to build it up externally.  There's a cute little Allegro full bridge driver with programmable current limit in SOIC8 that has a neat automatic decay mode control feature that I've used but don't remember the part number.

EMI is also a consideration of course, but would be anyway and there are auxiliary strategies that can address that.
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Re: What is the best flyback diode for inductive load?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2021, 08:33:34 pm »
There are no special demands for flyback suppression so any diode can be used depending on the application requirements.  The diode has to turn on quickly, but all diodes do unless they are defective.  Hardly anybody ever specifies "forward recovery time".

In some cases a zener diode or even better a TVS is preferred to allow a higher voltage across the inductor so that it discharges more quickly.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2021, 09:03:59 pm by David Hess »
 

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Re: What is the best flyback diode for inductive load?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2021, 08:41:13 pm »
Another alternative is to use a capacitor instead of a diode, sized so that it gives a relatively high frequency ringing that rapidly demagnetizes the core.
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Re: What is the best flyback diode for inductive load?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2021, 08:53:32 pm »
The X chapters have a discussion about this, page 71 , actually a resistor may be a good approach if you don't mind the extra current going through it.
 

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Re: What is the best flyback diode for inductive load?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2021, 12:07:19 am »
One more aspect worth touching on is how you connect the diode (or whatever) across the coil, and the basic fundamentals of noise mitigation, whether it be diode trace routing on a pcb or a diy wired situation.  If it was an industrial application then many relays come with a diode included option, or the relay cradle includes a diode module option.
 


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