Author Topic: Y2 capacitors downstream of common mode choke in offline SMPS  (Read 748 times)

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Offline ocsetTopic starter

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Hello,

We have seen a report detailing that Y capacitors in an offline SMPS should be placed upstream of a common mode choke. (as in the attached schematic)

However, I always thought that it was better if they were downstream of it. If one only has two Y capacitors, then surely they should best be placed downstream of  the Common mode choke, as in page 4 of the following….
Do you agree?

Page 4 shows Y capacitors downstream of common mode choke…
http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/sluu263c/sluu263c.pdf
 

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Re: Y2 capacitors downstream of common mode choke in offline SMPS
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2018, 08:41:42 pm »
It depends on which direction the EMI is going, through a filter.

To attenuate mains EMI from entering a piece of equipment, Y caps after CM choke.
To attenuate SMPS EMI from leaving a piece of equipment, Y caps before CM choke.
 
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Re: Y2 capacitors downstream of common mode choke in offline SMPS
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2018, 12:24:21 am »
Generalizations are utterly meaningless in EMC.  All that can be analyzed is each special case.

Try it both ways and see which one works best.  During layout, place both footprints.

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Re: Y2 capacitors downstream of common mode choke in offline SMPS
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2018, 05:06:52 am »
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To attenuate mains EMI from entering a piece of equipment, Y caps after CM choke.
To attenuate SMPS EMI from leaving a piece of equipment, Y caps before CM choke.

so to pass an emc test we need them upstream
..to pass an immunity test we need them downstream
would you agree?
 


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