Author Topic: Electric vehicle uptake in Australia held back by price, infrastructure  (Read 8118 times)

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Offline tszaboo

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That's something Norway has done right, I just purchased a Toyota Yaris Hybrid, i get about 30% discount on road tax, and reduced interest on the loan.

Full Electric cars get no road tax, no VAT on purchase, allowed to use the "bus" lane, free toll roads, and free communal parking. (some of these will be ended in 2018 and 2020)

Right is a matter of point of view.  Here in the US road construction and maintenance is largely funded by taxes on fuel.  As fuel economy has increased funds per vehicle mile has decreased dramatically.  While wear per vehicle mile is somewhat lower due to the lighter weight of fuel efficient vehicles, the reduction in wear is in no way comparable to the reduction in funding.  The result is deteriorating roadways.

Now various political units are experimenting with usage fees, taxes per mile driven.  It is a fair approach, but another demonstration that nothing is free.  If electric vehicles don't make economic sense without major tax incentives they just aren't long term viable.  (The same is true for hydrocarbon powered vehicles.  Deferring the cost of emissions took a while to catch up to them, but it has happened and will continue to happen.)
A truck has a magnitude higher wear on the road, than a passenger car. And electric cars make sense with tax incentives. Because a bunch of countries signed a pact that they are going to reduce pollution till 20xx. AFAIK  the USA was not signing it, because your politicians are blind folded idiots, like ours, but here green is trendy.
So a country needs to reduce its pollution levels, which is easily achievable with electric cars. In fact I cannot wait the day when they put seriously high taxes on diesel.
Europe is very different from Australia, what works in one country wont work in another.
That is quite clear. And I dont think anyone wants to have an electric car as their only car, because range, and charge time.

Some people will say that electric cars are easier to maintain as they have less parts and break down less but have you seen how much people charge just to repair car electricals and electronics compared to a mechanical repair?
It is less moving parts. Moving parts break with movement. The current downsized turbocharged hatchbacks sold in Europe break down after 5 years. Usually something very close to the engine. Manufacturers dont care, becuase everyone leases their car for 5 year. I dare you: buy a 5 year old VW and drive 10.000Km without a breakdown.
 

Offline CatalinaWOW

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A truck has a magnitude higher wear on the road, than a passenger car. And electric cars make sense with tax incentives. Because a bunch of countries signed a pact that they are going to reduce pollution till 20xx. AFAIK  the USA was not signing it, because your politicians are blind folded idiots, like ours, but here green is trendy.
So a country needs to reduce its pollution levels, which is easily achievable with electric cars. In fact I cannot wait the day when they put seriously high taxes on diesel.


And at least in the US, trucks pay much higher taxes.  In addition to the fuel taxes they pay over the road taxes based on vehicle weight and in some cases mileage.

What you are saying about electric cars is that they make sense because of CO2 control, and are justified based on satisfying treaty requirements.  So as I said, doing it right is a point of view.   Might even make objective sense if two other things are true.  One, there is no other mechanism control CO2 emission (like carbon taxes, etc). and two, the source of electric charge is either carbon neutral or better yet, non-CO2 emitting.   Both may be true, but are not often a criteria for an EV tax credit.  In Norway it is more likely to be true than other places due to the large amount of hydro and nuclear power.
 


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