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Electronics => Power/Renewable Energy/EV's => Topic started by: baastrup on January 20, 2017, 09:19:24 pm
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Is this even possible?
https://youtu.be/jiAhiu6UqXQ
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No, it is not possible. All these videos are fakes.
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He has solved the worlds energy supply for generations to come OR he's an shameless fraud
misleading people to get more youtube views. :rant:
(obviously the second option..)
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What about this one?
https://youtu.be/VMdS65_E_X4
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Yes that one works, it's a battery and will run out and leave you with hazardous waste. :-//
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What about this one?
Looks like he made a (very crude) battery. Like all batteries, to will go flat once the chemical potential energy is depleted.
By the way, the energy doesn't come from the salt water (or some magic ferry). It comes from the aluminum corroding.
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How about an Magnetic Engine for long therm Energy Source?
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How about an Magnetic Engine for long therm Energy Source?
What is a "magnetic engine" supposed to be?
Every electromotor and generator uses magnetics but they don't produce energy, they convert it from mechanical to electric energy and vice versa.
And with every conversion you loose some energy to heat since the efficiency can't be 100%.
Greetings
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:-+ like all other...
But how long can it run until the Magnets loose there Power?
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Magnets don't have "power" :palm:
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:-// sorry its hard to translate.
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Magnets in motors and generators don't loose their strength. No matter how long or often you use them.
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So it mean a Magnet Generator can produce Power over a long time?
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So it mean a Magnet Generator can produce Power over a long time?
Yes, as long as you put in mechanical energy, they will produce electricity.
Almost all electricity we use is produced this way. Solar cells are the only notable exception
But all of those "magnet motors" (like the one in the video in the first post) which supposedly produce energy without input are ALL fakes!
I suggest you read this page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetuum_mobile
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Why do people even ask about this stuff? No, it's not possible. Any system that claims to be putting out more energy than is put in is either fraud, measurement error, or a source of energy is not accounted for. You cannot violate the laws of energy, period. There is money in creating a convincing scam for those who believe otherwise though.
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Magnets in motors and generators don't loose their strength. No matter how long or often you use them.
That isn't entirely true. It's common to have to remagnetize the magnets in old electric motors and other applications. A few years ago I helped someone build a magnetizer to refurbish the motors in vintage toy slot cars. The magnetism is not consumed, but it does fade with age.
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That isn't entirely true. It's common to have to remagnetize the magnets in old electric motors and other applications. A few years ago I helped someone build a magnetizer to refurbish the motors in vintage toy slot cars. The magnetism is not consumed, but it does fade with age.
Yes, that is true of course. I wanted to simplify things since he doesn't seem to be very competent in physics.
The modern neodymium and ferrite magnets can hold their strength nearly indefinitely as long as they are not heated above their intended usage temperature.
Those old magnets were probably made out of steel which looses its magneticity pretty easily.
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Is this even possible?
https://youtu.be/jiAhiu6UqXQ
Ironically his almost 20 million hits is free money to pay for energy.
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I suspect that was his goal all along, get people to watch his scam, make money.
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If I had a free energy machine, I wouldn't be posting it on youtube. I'd be deciding between seeking investors or earning myself a Nobel.
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I'm surprised the Acme Corp doesn't sell a free energy device (yet).
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/fabulous_collection_acme_products_bugs_daffy_and_wile_e._coyote (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/fabulous_collection_acme_products_bugs_daffy_and_wile_e._coyote)
The first rule of free energy is: "There is no free energy"
The second rule of free energy is: "Just because someone believes something doesn't make it true"
The third rule of free energy is:"If you really find free energy, shut up about it and develop it very privately"
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I'm surprised the Acme Corp doesn't sell a free energy device (yet).
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/fabulous_collection_acme_products_bugs_daffy_and_wile_e._coyote (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/fabulous_collection_acme_products_bugs_daffy_and_wile_e._coyote)
The first rule of free energy is: "There is no free energy"
The second rule of free energy is: "Just because someone believes something doesn't make it true"
The third rule of free energy is:"If you really find free energy, shut up about it and develop it very privately"
In fact, if you are ever in a position to invoke rule three, don't sell it as free energy. Sell it as a very good battery, or a very fuel efficient motor or whatever. You will make plenty of money that way and avoid endless grief from those out to prove you wrong.
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The third rule of free energy is:"If you really find free energy, shut up about it and develop it very privately"
I reckon you'd be better off choosing life. Keep it secret until you know it works, put together a set of documents describing everything you know, then pick a date. Spam the whole thing as widely as possible as fast as possible, so there's no question that anyone will be able to grab the info and keep it secret. You'll still get your world fame and Nobel, but you won't be part of the "let's keep all of this secret" project by someone else.
Forget annoying Shell or a Saudi oil billionaire, Russia is a petro-state and Putin owns a big chunk of their oil companies. Good luck persuading him to leave you alone if you have a secret free energy source that threatens to implode him and his country.
Or, you know, make a youtube video and put it up next to "12 property investing secrets that will make you a millionaire". That can work too.
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I don't see that as being a big problem. It has been said that oil is far too valuable to be burning it as fuel. It has countless uses and nearly unlimited demand. If we stopped using oil as fuel cold turkey it would cause economic consequences but if it was phased out over a reasonable period demand would still be enormous.
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When I was this kid I had this idea that if you were to have a wheel with 4 magnets on it, and then 3 magnets on the part that does not turn, or other uneven number of magnets, one magnet would repel the other, sending the next into the path of another and so on and it would spin forever. I also had an idea that you could make an electric car if you had a solar panel power a light bulb, and a small battery that would be used only for starting by turning on the bulb.
Then I grew up and realized none of this was possible. :-DD Damn laws of thermodynamics! :scared:
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At least you grew up.
Some people are still trying to find the right light bulb and get it in the right place.
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I had a similar idea when I was about 5. Hey just take a motor and use it to drive a generator, then take the power from the generator and use it to run the motor. My dad explained why that wouldn't work and it made sense even then. Now there have been lots of examples of people accomplishing things that others said were impossible but I think we're mostly past that era. We know enough about how the universe works and have amassed so much knowledge, all the easy stuff has been done already and we are past the era of one person coming up with a truly revolutionary invention in their garage. There are lots of things that are potentially feasible with enough technological development but unless we are radically wrong in our fundamental understanding, it will never be possible to violate the laws of energy.
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Electricity and magnetism have been completely and thoroughly understood for well over a century. The next "big thing" in energy is not going to come from a bloke in a shed messing with coils and magnets.
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(For some free energy lunacy retro style, try http://www.besslerwheel.com/. (http://www.besslerwheel.com/.) They are still trying to create a "gravity motor" with weights and levers. :palm:)
I think even a well-equipped lab would struggle to find an "anomalous effect", that is something previously undiscovered but does not require "new physics", and finding something that can be exploited an a large scale even less likely. Things like cold fusion, EM drive, still not sure there is a real effect there.
I think any genuinely new physics will come out of experiments like LHC, but almost by definition those occur at energies which may not lead to practical use.
Perhaps the biggest avenue for research is in novel materials and bio-technology. e.g. tweaking photosynthesis to make it more efficient, high temperature super-conductors sort of stuff.
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Here is a good analogy to use when someone suggests a magnetic perpetual motion machine.
"That will work when you can find a material that will block (not just redirect) magnetic fields. And I'll be able to float when I can find a material that will block gravitational fields."