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Hydrogen based energy policy appears to be a bad idea

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tszaboo:

--- Quote from: bigfoot22 on December 13, 2022, 11:25:01 am ---The majority of the population should ideally be living on the farm and homesteading because that is simply the best way to do things.
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No thx.

nctnico:
Homesteaders heavily rely on what is being made in cities.

Kleinstein:
Living on a homestead needs lots of room. this may work in Australia, but in many countries there is just enough space or too much population for this.
With modern computer based working quite some people could more from a city to more rural areas or the other way, but this does not really solve the problems. When done right living in city is more effective.

When living in a modern city one could in principle live without a private car - most can be done with public transport and if really needed for a few case there are rentals. This gets tricky in rural areas.
It is not about getting more electric cars, but more about less cars overall. For the electric cars it is also about making them smaller and cheaper this way.
The conclusion may still be that a private car is expensive and maybe not worth it in a city.
Not having a private car may be a big step for some. Just not having the car can safe quite some money to be used for occasional "expensive" rides with taxi.
The increased fuel costs are still relatively low - there is still way to much consumption. So expect them to go up even more. The times of cheap fuel hopefully will not come back.

Marco:
Homesteading is not subsistence living, it's just a rich man's hobby. Having a subset of your food grow on your own farm doesn't suddenly make you sustainable, to build that farm and your home in the middle of nowhere you already spend more than a lifetime of consumption of a poor person. City's and industrial scale farming are highly efficient on a per calorie scale even with long distance transport, you're not going to compete.

Given that you are rich you might even be able to stock enough economic output from the real economy to do it comfortably without input from that real economy for decades or more (till you need advanced medical attention) but homesteading alone is a terrible form of prepping, you need a compound with friends to have effective raider defence in a collapse situation.

f4eru:

--- Quote ---- You can find a physical limitation for just about any plan to avoid disaster
-  Everyone wants electric cars right?
- Well the electricity grid won't support that.
- And it takes at least a decade to build nuclear power plants
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All four statements are plain wrong.
That is not a plan.
That is an empty narrative, disconnected from any facts.

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