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Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« on: June 20, 2019, 05:25:54 am »
Dear friends,

yesterday I picked up a Agilent DSO8064 after a longer train ride. The seller says "self test passed" but sadly when I did the test it did not pass  >:(.

The the failure of the self test
Test: Vertical Test Group -- FAILED

Did anyone of you have a hint what's going wrong or is their a more detailed error log somewhere on this unit ?

Many thanks and best regards
Michael
 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2019, 06:40:13 am »
Look in c:\scope\selftest
The text log will be there. Open in Wordpad so it formats correctly.
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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 08:08:51 am »
I've attached the self test results getting from c:\scope\selftest

ScopeTestGood.txt is the same scope from 2012 which has passed the self test
ScopeTestBad.txt is the actual run which fails.



 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2019, 08:17:52 am »
When I do a diff of the two files I don't see a big difference nor can I sport the test which cause to fail  :-//
diff -Naur ScopeTestGood.txt ScopeTestBad.txt > ScopeTestDiff.txt


 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 08:21:00 am »
Yesterday I have calibrate the scope but the self test still fails :-\
 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 09:03:35 am »
Oddly enough, I've seen that exact failure before. It turned out that the flex cable between the ACQ board and the probe board was cocked a bit.
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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2019, 09:04:40 am »
Assuming a honest seller, it indeed could be a mere contact problem with either hybrid or connection.
HP 1720A scope with HP 1120A probe, EMG 12563 pulse generator, EMG 1257 function generator, EMG 1172B signal generator, MEV TR-1660C bench multimeter
 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2019, 11:27:04 am »
I've attached the self test results getting from c:\scope\selftest

ScopeTestGood.txt is the same scope from 2012 which has passed the self test
ScopeTestBad.txt is the actual run which fails.

does the scope show signals correctly on all or some of the channels ?
are there more detailed individual tests that can be run in that drop down menu?
I am not familiar with 8064/8164 but I have repaired several 54845/46 and I suppose these must be similar in a lot of ways. In those infiniums you can run more detailed tests than just "vertical group".

My suggestion would be (1) check all the connectors and coming out of the acquisition board
(2) post a picture of the acquisition board so we can get a better idea of how it is configured (3) if it is anything similar to 548xx series, careful cleaning of the ASICs will most probably fix it. That is well documented in eevblog and youtube. but I don't know how the acquisition board in 8064 is designed.
 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2019, 05:20:19 am »
Hi all,
thanks for the fruitfully inputs and hints. In the mean time I've managed to reset the admin account, update to the latest and greatest 5.71 software and with help of some other threads here I have now a lot of options too >:D
 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2019, 05:31:11 am »
Dear friends,
now a little bit of DSO8064A acquisition board porn ;D. I've a lot more picture which I can upload if someone is interesting in.
Cheers
Michael
 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2019, 05:43:58 am »
Hi,
even it looks not totally nice but with some hot glue it's quite easy to install a SATA SSD without taking apart half of the 8064A to replace the harddrive.
Cheers
Michael
 

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Re: Agilent DSO8064A self test failed in vertical test group
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2019, 04:19:53 pm »
I've attached the self test results getting from c:\scope\selftest

ScopeTestGood.txt is the same scope from 2012 which has passed the self test
ScopeTestBad.txt is the actual run which fails.

does the scope show signals correctly on all or some of the channels ?
are there more detailed individual tests that can be run in that drop down menu?
I am not familiar with 8064/8164 but I have repaired several 54845/46 and I suppose these must be similar in a lot of ways. In those infiniums you can run more detailed tests than just "vertical group".

My suggestion would be (1) check all the connectors and coming out of the acquisition board
(2) post a picture of the acquisition board so we can get a better idea of how it is configured (3) if it is anything similar to 548xx series, careful cleaning of the ASICs will most probably fix it. That is well documented in eevblog and youtube. but I don't know how the acquisition board in 8064 is designed.
Many thanks for the fruitful input. Beyond the up-hacking fun I've checked all cables from and to the acquisition board carefully. I found a not well seated flex and reseat it. In this kind of scope the ASIC's are soldered and can't be reseated. But after the reseat of the flex cable the scope pass it's vertical test group :-+. So I'm very happy. Many thanks for all the good hints.
Cheers
Michael
 


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