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Offline ChrissTopic starter

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CAN strange shape on scope
« on: April 26, 2022, 10:55:55 pm »
Hi!
I'm trying to connect a car ecu on my bench to my diagnostic tool but no way to do that.
I have experience in that cos I use ecu's many times on my bench.

When I checked the Can-H and Can-L with my scope I got a strange signal. Look the at the picture.

I'm not sure what should I look for.
Any idea where to start to troubleshoot?

Thanks for any advice.
 

Offline jwet

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Re: CAN strange shape on scope
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2022, 04:58:31 pm »
Its a differential signal.  Use your scope math function if it has it to subtract the two, it will make more sense.  Otherwise go through a CAN physical interface chip to get get a single ended signal.  It does look funny though.  Pay some attention to grounding and don't have other equipment connected. (see Dave's video on how to blow up your scope)
 

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Re: CAN strange shape on scope
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2022, 06:27:27 pm »
Thanks for your time spent to replay.
The CAN-H and CAN-L signal is in a kind of infinity loop. Like if you would pulse two signals with an NE555.
I never saw that kind of "looping" CAN signal.
 

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Re: CAN strange shape on scope
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2022, 08:25:04 pm »
Me neither- Learned something.
 

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Re: CAN strange shape on scope
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2022, 08:34:21 pm »
Problem solved a couple of minutes ago.
The CAN line is not terminated in the ecu.
When I put a 120R across the CAN lines the
signal shape is now perfect.
 


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