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| rogerggbr:
Great question Steve. To be fair, some manufacturers are getting better. I have done 2 fixes on my Bosch washing machine so far, replaced the door switch and replaced the brushes in the motor. Parts came from Bosch distributor in UK. The problem can be split into 2:- 1. Spare parts. Always contentious and very difficult to legislate for outside of already very regulated industries e.g. vehicles. 2. Documentation. I got the parts because I could find the part number easily. Today it would be very easy to force manufacturers to release the full documentation of products going out of support, or some time after. As this must include parts lists and schematics it will be of great help to fixing many things - it is up to us then what we do, but at least we have a choice and a chance. I realise this doesn't solve all problems, but as Steve says we should start somewhere. With regard to electrical safety, how do you think the repair cafes/clubs manage? Assessing competency is not easy (outside of a tick box environment) but their popularity is growing rapidly and they don't seem to be causing harm to many people.... |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: rteodor on July 08, 2024, 02:44:26 pm ---By "standard component" I mean one that is available from several manufacturers at design time. If it can be proven post-factum that a non-standard design choice was made where a standard was blatantly available then progressively tax/fine the company. Leave some room for experimentation in the beginning then raise the tax until its no longer economical. This is how Apple vs. USBC situation should have been handled and NOT by making a special law for it. --- End quote --- Multiple sources thing is irrecoverably dead for 3 decades except for the most basic components. The only reason it was a thing was because large corporations such as IBM made it a requirement for their suppliers. |
| fmashockie:
I have a theory: I think SteveThackery is an operative hired by a conglomerate of electronic device manufacturers, sent in to infiltrate the EEV blog and disrupt the forum by starting charged discussions in the 'Repair' forum (these threads he started really belong in different forum IMO) to thwart the process of members helping one another repair their devices. Instead, we spend our time arguing with him in these threads which falls in line perfectly with his plan... |
| fzabkar:
--- Quote from: fmashockie on July 08, 2024, 03:36:54 pm ---I have a theory: I think SteveThackery is an operative hired by a conglomerate of electronic device manufacturers, sent in to infiltrate the EEV blog and disrupt the forum by starting charged discussions in the 'Repair' forum (these threads he started really belong in different forum IMO) to thwart the process of members helping one another repair their devices. Instead, we spend our time arguing with him in these threads which falls in line perfectly with his plan... --- End quote --- You need to chill. Steve's discussions are perfectly valid. In fact, if you intend to embark on your new career path, Right to Repair will be a big thing in your favour. |
| AndyC_772:
--- Quote from: rteodor on July 08, 2024, 02:44:26 pm ---By "standard component" I mean one that is available from several manufacturers at design time. If it can be proven post-factum that a non-standard design choice was made where a standard was blatantly available then progressively tax/fine the company. --- End quote --- This whole idea is completely dead in the water from day one, sorry. It's a legacy hangover from the days when electronics were built out of 74LS logic and 555 timers, totally inapplicable to anything even remotely current. Device manufacturers have to be able to innovate; to produce parts that aren't just the same as the generic ones that other companies are also making. Making something better than what has gone before means it's not the same any more. It's no longer interchangeable with competitors' parts, and that's perfectly OK - it's how technological progress is made. |
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