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Offline mzspring

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FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« on: May 01, 2021, 03:09:53 am »
I have a FLUKE PM6306 LCR meter that needs to be calibrated.

I can not find the Service Manual or a Calibration Procedure online at all

You can send me a Service Manual ?
Email: 1828136354@qq.com


I tried to calibrate PM6306 using the method in PM6304 service manual, but failed.
input
DATE 21/5/01; REF_RES_LO 100.002; REF_RES_HI 9.998E3; CAL
After that, PM6306 restarted instead of entering calibration step 'CAL - 3'.

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 07:15:22 am »
I never saw any leaked service manual for it, searched a lot without any success   

they are / where sold under another name ... can't recall the name


EDIT :   KEER 4270
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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2021, 08:36:52 am »
Thank you. I have already seen it. There is no service manual
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2021, 11:15:55 am »
Sorry to say they are fake sv manuals links ... and i wont give any credit card info .... sometimes keyword related  etc ...

Highvoltage member tried in the past getting the sv manual but no luck,  he was kind enough to send me his original dc biais board,  i did make a clone of it ...   there's a thread here somewhere loll,  some pm6306 lcr's did not have the option installed.

I hope your's have it.

Try a Email request at Kerr ... under an non disclosure agreement ??  or try to find a calibration facility ??
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2021, 12:09:18 pm »
Thank, I have a dc biais board
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2021, 05:07:32 pm »
There is no service manual available in the open. I know a guy who has one but will not let me have a copy.

I am surprised your PM6306A needs calibration.
They are usually very stable even over many years.
What exactly is outside the tolerances?
There are 3 kinds of people in this world, those who can count and those who can not.
 
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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2021, 05:55:13 pm »
It looks like the PM6306 and PM6304 have the same data sheet.

https://www.testequipmenthq.com/datasheets/PHILIPS-PM6304-Datasheet.pdf

And these people have the PM6304 Service manual.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252644734364

It might be worth asking if it's the same manual?
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2021, 12:08:59 am »
the 6306 is a 1 mega hertz model
the 6304 is a 100khz        since the dc biais board is common   maybe the mainboard share some similitudes ??


EDIT    would be curious to see an 6306 fw in a 6304 ??   
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PE1CCN, Systems Engineering, HP, Philips, TEK, BRYMAN, Fluke, Keithley
 
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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2021, 10:56:52 am »
thks
As a side note: They don't include a schematic
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 02:45:07 pm »
The schematics seem to be unobtainable.
Nowhere to be found is a common response in several blogs.

Maybe an owner has this and is wiling to scan.

However, my impression is that it contains mainly a power supply, a HMI interface,
input conditioning, output selection and a large program in a large (?) FPGA that does all the "bridge" calculations.

In short: a high price per kg.

Frans
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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 05:23:34 pm »
@fransw

See how the 6304 works ... i think the 6306 is an evolution of this circuit (going up to 1Mhz)  you could compare the 6303 against the 6304 and see the changes ??

It doesn't have an hmi display, and some internals photos doesn't show such a fpga / cpld implementation ??

This is my old 6304  and the astounding ridiculous price they ask,  believe me  they haven't paid me this price loll
https://www.ebay.com/itm/222683114057?hash=item33d8f2aa49:g:M2IAAOSwnw9Z6KYv
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2021, 12:15:03 am »
the strange thing is,  why on the front pcb  there is an infrared receiver circuit ??? never noticed that

section 6  is about the recalibration procedures   does it apply to the 6306 ???
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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2021, 08:16:17 am »
I have a 4265A and the attachment is part of the measurement method.
My guess is that this part is now solved in software and the enhanced accuracy partly
depending on the OCXO or with an external source.

The quality of the reference material(s) is evident.

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2021, 10:08:46 am »
PM6306 has no infrared receiver.

I tried to calibrate PM6306 using the method in PM6304 service manual, but failed.
input
DATE 21/5/01; REF_RES_LO 100.002; REF_RES_HI 9.998E3; CAL
After that, PM6306 restarted instead of entering calibration step 'CAL - 3'.

By the way, show out the new test socket



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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2021, 10:47:23 am »
good test jig  :-+

maybe someone decompiling the FW could catch the cal commands ?? 

there's a FW v1.05 at Ko4bb 
http://www.ko4bb.com/getsimple/index.php?id=download&file=Fluke/Fluke_PM6306/PM6306_LCR_Meter_EPROM_v1.5.zip
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2021, 11:50:05 am »
What is the model of this IC(EPROM)?

I want to buy an IC(EPROM) to upgrade V1.4 to v1.5.
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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2021, 04:40:34 pm »

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What is the model of this IC(EPROM)?

27C010-150 (128Kx8)
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2021, 02:14:11 pm »
Thank you, why PM6306 will report Err48 error
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2021, 02:59:54 pm »
ERR48 = Communication error to the printer(time-out)
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2021, 03:27:47 am »
Thank you, 1Mhz test 1P capacitance is normal, other frequencies display 0P

The ERR48 error is looking for the cause and has not been solved yet
 

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Re: FLUKE PM6306 LCR Meter Service Manual
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2021, 03:04:07 am »
Can you take a high-definition picture of this position for me?

And measure their values

PM6306 for V1.6

Thank you
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