Hey All,
I asked this over on the HP Yahoo Group but I thought I'd post here as well as I'm out of options (and running out of vacation to work on it).
My 53131A (HS Oven & Ch 3 to 3GHz) seems to not want to measure when I try to use the Time options, T1 to T2, Rise Time, Fall Time, +/- Width. It does however measure Period correctly and all the Frequency options. It passes both the start-up and detailed self-tests and the high stability time base is bang on 10MHz.
The service manual is only to the assembly level so it doesn't provide any guidance on what could be wrong except to use the self-tests, which pass so they aren't much help (The FPGA, FR END & MEAS tests pass). In trying to track down the issue I removed the 3GHz pre-scalar, the high stability time base and then then the cans from the front end.
While doing that, I did notice that the unit would occasionally fail the startup self-tests when cold but rapidly warm up to the point where it would work. So, I thought it might be cold related and I can get it to fail the FR END test if I use some cold spray on U64. I'm not sure if this is telling me anything though as I can also get it to fail if freeze the corresponding CH2 Op Amp (it's an LM308AM) U57.
Nothing else on the motherboard is temperature sensitive though which I would have expected if there was another thing causing the cold start fails.
With that as the only pointer, I ordered replacements for the LM308s w3hich arrived this morning. I removed the old LM308s and installed the new LT1008s (a drop-in upgrade per the datasheet) and this had no impact on the actual issue.
I'm now not sure whether the temperature is an issue because the cold is causing something or if it is simply the ice/condensation on the caps causing the apparent capacitance to change in the front end.
Using the schematic for 53131-68004, which isn't my board - I have 53131-68001 but this is the closest revision board number that I can find - I traced the signal through to where it goes to the FPGA and it does indeed disappear when you go to "T1 To T2".
My problem is that as far as I can tell all the components that control the signal path are working. They react to changing from frequency to time but when they're in frequency you can see pulses occurring and the gate indicator flashing but in Time mode you see one pulse and the gate indicator is solid.
For example, if I feed 10MHz into CH1 I see 2.5MHz signal on pins 18 & 19 with Vpp of ~1.3V and a Vmid of 3.6V - I also see a 5MHz signal on pins 3 & 4 with similar voltages. As soon as I switch over to Time they all go their 1 & 0 logic levels (MECL I believe because there are MECL to TTL converters on the schematic).
I'm really at a bit of a loss as what to do next.
I can only think of two reasons this would be happening. The first is that the firmware has become corrupted - If the microprocessor was failing I'd expect it to fail across the board and not just in one specific area, similarly I'd expect that the FPGA wouldn't work for frequency either as the same IO pins are used in both cases. Both the micro and FPGA pass all the self-tests.
The second is that there is something in the signal path between the input and the FPGA that changes when you swap from frequency to time measurements. However, I simply can’t find anything that doesn’t appear to be working, so if it is there then I’ve missed it.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
TonyG