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hair straigtener fuse?
« on: April 15, 2024, 11:54:36 am »
I have these hair tong things to fix, Basicaly a pair of tongs with heater pads on them, It has two points on the pcb marked fuse, These go to a ceramic block at the rear of one heater, If i bypass it the tongs work,What can i replace it with, Or is there a way to reset it? , Its the block in the pic in the capton sleeve, It has no markings.
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2024, 01:31:26 pm »
I have these hair tong things to fix, Basicaly a pair of tongs with heater pads on them, It has two points on the pcb marked fuse, These go to a ceramic block at the rear of one heater, If i bypass it the tongs work,What can i replace it with, Or is there a way to reset it? , Its the block in the pic in the capton sleeve, It has no markings.

Only sensible thing to replace is the whole tongs.

Having a homebrew high power electric device connected to someone's head? What could possibly go wrong?

How will you feel if a bodged repair damages someone else? (I doubt anybody, yourself included, would worry if you damaged yourself that way).
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2024, 01:50:57 pm »
It's a thermal fuse that should have temperature rating written on it. Unwrap kapton tape so you can read it.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2024, 01:53:38 pm by wraper »
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2024, 01:52:52 pm »
Only sensible thing to replace is the whole tongs.

Having a homebrew high power electric device connected to someone's head? What could possibly go wrong?

How will you feel if a bodged repair damages someone else? (I doubt anybody, yourself included, would worry if you damaged yourself that way).
How replacing it with appropriate part suddenly makes it homebrew?
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2024, 02:31:12 pm »
Only sensible thing to replace is the whole tongs.

Having a homebrew high power electric device connected to someone's head? What could possibly go wrong?

How will you feel if a bodged repair damages someone else? (I doubt anybody, yourself included, would worry if you damaged yourself that way).
How replacing it with appropriate part suddenly makes it homebrew?

It doesn't, but in view of the fact that brand name versions of these, (Remington etc) can be bought new for £20, all considered, it might be better not to mess with it.
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2024, 02:59:47 pm »
Only sensible thing to replace is the whole tongs.

Having a homebrew high power electric device connected to someone's head? What could possibly go wrong?

How will you feel if a bodged repair damages someone else? (I doubt anybody, yourself included, would worry if you damaged yourself that way).
How replacing it with appropriate part suddenly makes it homebrew?

That avoids the key issues:
  • determining what the appropiate part is, and obtaining it
  • replacing it competently
  • the OP
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2024, 05:46:44 pm »
So another bunch  of usless answers telling us things we already know!,seems a few folks have idle fingers on here and waste server space!, Why are there so many folks / twats like this on forums?.
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2024, 05:50:12 pm »
How about all these folks offering "ADVICE" On here keep away from keyboards unless they can give an answer thats usefull  or is it a good way of wasting everyones time??!.?.
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2024, 06:14:24 pm »
What sort of advice do you want? How are we supposed to know what response you find useful?

It's good you've put more effort into writing and posting some pictures along with your original question, but it's a shame you started being rude, when you didn't get the answers you were looking for. This is your last chance. Any more nonsense and you go on my ignore list.

As wraper mentioned above it's a thermal fuse.

It is not possible to reset it. These are designed to fail open circuit in order to prevent a fire.  You need to look at the value printed on it and replace it with the same one. A distributor such as RS Components or CPC will have a suitable replacement.

It can be challenging to replace it. I've never managed to successfully solder a new one, without overheating it, causing it to trip. I've taken to soldering tinned copper wire to the board and crimping the thermal fuse to it and cutting off the excess wire.
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2024, 06:19:48 pm »
Only sensible thing to replace is the whole tongs.

Having a homebrew high power electric device connected to someone's head? What could possibly go wrong?

How will you feel if a bodged repair damages someone else? (I doubt anybody, yourself included, would worry if you damaged yourself that way).
How replacing it with appropriate part suddenly makes it homebrew?

That avoids the key issues:
  • determining what the appropiate part is, and obtaining it
  • replacing it competently
  • the OP

You forgot, determining why it failed in the first place.

My advice from having to deal with GHD crap from coworkers, is to throw it in the nearest bin, where it belongs. These days I would refuse to even look at a pair of these.

David
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2024, 06:26:41 pm »
p.larner (aka, m3vuv) has been banned. We allowed this account to continue existing as it seemed he had been behaving, however it's clear here that he is still not capable of interacting in a civil manner.
 
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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2024, 06:57:58 pm »
I can't believe I missed that it's m3vuv. It's odd how he let it slip in another post. I suppose it's been a couple of years.

 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2024, 07:19:32 pm »
p.larner (aka, m3vuv) has been banned. We allowed this account to continue existing as it seemed he had been behaving, however it's clear here that he is still not capable of interacting in a civil manner.

Thanks; that confirms my judgement wasn't completely screwy when I put him in my very short ignore list.

Like zero999, I too missed the m3vuv connection. I had mercifully forgotten about him until I searched and found I'd tangled with him too.
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2024, 07:29:55 pm »
I knew it was him a while back, recognised the bench in some pictures and the parallel 7075 thread over on groups.io gave it away too, he got a second ban much quicker elsewhere.
https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/topic/104148445#155

Question is how long before he returns under another alias, with yet another location?

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2024, 07:37:33 pm »
I knew it was him a while back, recognised the bench in some pictures and the parallel 7075 thread over on groups.io gave it away too, he got a second ban much quicker elsewhere.
https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/topic/104148445#155

Question is how long before he returns under another alias, with yet another location?

David

Yeah :( I am a bit slow :(

I'll put it down to not wanting to think badly of people. And I'm going to stick to the explanation, no matter what.

He'll be back. The more interesting questions are whether I will remember the punctuation, and how quickly he will be banned again.
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2024, 09:28:41 pm »
I wasn't aware of the history.

I'm all in favour of folks having a tinker with modern products, not intended for repair, fixing them, and so saving them from landfill. In this case, a mains connected device, likely to be in intimate contact with the person, which can be bought new cheaply enough. Err, NO.
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2024, 09:37:01 pm »
I hope that wire link across the fuse terminals disappears. I guess we'll never know now but I have my concerns.
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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2024, 09:46:45 pm »
Your right about that, especially as people tend to leave these plugged in unattended too.
As it's using screw terminals, there are probably spares available from somewhere, trouble is finding a trustworthy supplier, work colleagues would bring unknown quality clone parts last time I saw a pair of these, hence why I now refuse to work on this type of thing these days.

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2024, 10:04:37 pm »
I wasn't aware of the history.

I'm all in favour of folks having a tinker with modern products, not intended for repair, fixing them, and so saving them from landfill. In this case, a mains connected device, likely to be in intimate contact with the person, which can be bought new cheaply enough. Err, NO.
It gets worse. He's a scammer. He bought an oscilloscope off eBay, modified it and quite possibly buggered it up, then wanted to return it, because the seller made a mistake in the description, then preceded to slander the seller on this forum and others.  :palm: Don't trust this person.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/ebay-scammers/
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2024, 10:46:39 pm »
I hope that wire link across the fuse terminals disappears. I guess we'll never know now but I have my concerns.
I shall read the obituary columns with interest over the next few weeks.
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2024, 09:45:15 pm »
I hope that wire link across the fuse terminals disappears. I guess we'll never know now but I have my concerns.
I shall read the obituary columns with interest over the next few weeks.
If he's killed by his own stupidity, that's fine, but he's clearly putting others at risk.
 
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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2024, 10:14:24 pm »
That's his problem and their problem. tggzzz and I both advised such a repair shouldn't be entertained, and were met with a hostile response.
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2024, 10:16:58 pm »
I don't think its wrong to try to repair that but the key is that it is deceptively easy to repair it and that most people don't know how it could be done safely (aka need to admit that its actually a hard repair )

but I am suspicious of someone uploading 2 blurry ass pictures, i.e. troll

how to solder it to answer the question no one cares about anymore, you need efficient heat sinks.

is the idea to throw it out and buy a new one good? its safe. but its also wasteful of resources.

i say wise man say its smart to throw that shit out
« Last Edit: April 16, 2024, 10:22:37 pm by coppercone2 »
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2024, 10:21:55 pm »
how to solder it to answer the question no one cares about anymore, you need efficient heat sinks.

I'm obviously missing something, because I see two screw terminals?
 

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Re: hair straigtener fuse?
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2024, 10:22:59 pm »
how to solder it to answer the question no one cares about anymore, you need efficient heat sinks.

I'm obviously missing something, because I see two screw terminals?

someone complained that thermal fuses are difficult to solder
 


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