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HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« on: December 28, 2024, 09:00:46 am »
Hello; I am looking for the following integrated circuit: HCTR 6010A (DIP-16), or an equivalent that could be close to it because it is old.... Could someone help me?? Thank you in advance ;D
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2024, 09:48:49 am »
Can you post the datasheet?

The only links I could find to it are from the Datasheet Archive, but that site is a little too much of a security risk for me to download anything from it.
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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2024, 11:21:08 am »
Hello; here is the datasheet.... ;)
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2024, 01:36:11 pm »
Sounds like a job for an µController. ATmega328 for example, or some flavor of a esp32.
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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2024, 02:16:33 pm »
i'll choice ATTiny-xx4(tinyAVR) :-+
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2024, 02:30:29 pm »
Hello; can this integrated circuit be replaced by a MOS circuit from the CD4000 series? :D
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2024, 11:41:46 am »
Hello; I looked again on the internet this morning and I don't see any equivalents..... |O
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2024, 02:01:17 pm »
If you find an equivalent it will be of the same era and have the same availability issues. What is this counter chip used for? 
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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2024, 02:03:09 pm »
If it is an important instrument you want to restore then going the arduino route (or something equivalent) is probably the most realistic way.
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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2024, 04:21:41 pm »
Good evening; this is the BK PRECISION 820 capacitance meter (here is the manual with its diagram), for which I have to repair; everything can still be found, except this integrated circuit..... :box:
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2024, 04:24:34 pm »
I can't attach it (large file); but it can be found by leaving the eevblog forum....Cdt :scared:
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2024, 08:15:23 pm »
That chip is a counter. It counts 'time'. This time comes from pen 3 of a NAND port in IC203. I don't have the name of IC203 but I think it is a common 4093.
The count is interrupted at the moment that it represents the measurement, I think this comes from pen 4 of IC203. It resets and the cycle is restarted.

With a means to visualise these 2 signals (scope, frequency counter) you might want to experiment and build some emulator that can replace the HCT6010A. How far you want to go will depend on the (sentimental) value this BKP 820 has for you.

btw: Are you're certain that the HCT6010A is dead and not something else?

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2024, 11:49:43 am »
Hello; most of the integrated circuits will need to be replaced because this device was the victim of a capacitor charged by its previous owner, (except the HCTR6010) because I need to test it.......Thanks for your research! :-+
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 07:54:00 am »
Hello everyone! The integrated circuits having arrived; I was able to get to work, and I am making progress on its arrival! The voltages and various signals are present; but I have no display.....I strongly suspect the integrated circuit HCTR6010 controlling the voltage of the displays to be blown because the signals enter but do not leave the IC....The only downside; I cannot find out if this integrated circuit is still manufactured and I do not know if we can find an equivalent.....Its reference is: IC102... See the P15 diagram that I attached.....Could someone help me?? Thanks in advance :-//
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 08:14:14 am »
i dont think unless you salvage it from another,  or by chance  some one is selling some   old stuff   that youll find a modern substitute

only one who comes to mind mm74c925  mm74c926

does have some resemblance with ca3161 and 3162  pair to build some voltmeter



huges parts from 1984 
http://www.bitsavers.org/components/hughes/1984_Hughes_CMOS_Databook.pdf

and was listed  way before in the 1975  ic master and others .... 

you're dealing with a relic  here

and PLS @Lionel   you have a tendency to ask things,  but not provide enough data in the beginning until you are asked too ...
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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 08:20:52 am »
Thank you for this speed!! I attach the diagram of the integrated circuit with its pinout.....Cdt :-+
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 11:54:23 am »
Hello; it's going to be complicated, because the 'PIN OUT' is not the same! I wonder how I'm going to be able to do it!?? :palm: :palm: :palm:
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 03:15:56 pm »
you have some  B&K 820 and 830  on sale on ebay ...  the prices will not  be in a range that you'll appreciate  ...


in the end  you would need to mimick this chip,   while decoding encoding to display the read values ...


best advise would be:    put it aside and wait if some in your country will appear overtime  ....
 

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Re: HCTR6010A INTEGRATED CIRCUIT
« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 04:46:32 pm »
hello Lionelkjh,

Very few/faint matches, even by obsolete IC sellers :

https://www.afrenterprises.com/partno-search?searchby=partno&searchkey=HCTR6010
https://www.utsource.net/sch/HC6010-0-D-000.html
https://www.afrenterprises.com/partno-search?searchby=partno&searchkey=hctr6010

Probably no stock, but you can still try to contact them.

IC propagation is really slow (1,5 µs typical) so a replacement by a rather recent µC or a vintage CPLD, put on a piggy-back PCB might be the best solution to replace the defective part.
Voltage compatibility has to be checked for the dedicated BK PRECISION 820 because the genuine part accepts up to 10 VDC.


Update #1
The IC102 (HC6010) is powered by a 10,3 VDC supply  :(
So a functional replacement needs also to cope with this higher voltage.

VDD on IC103 is 4.4 to 6VDC (4 'C' cells in series)

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