Author Topic: Help identifying a 1383 transistor  (Read 1836 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline sausageTopic starter

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 50
  • Country: au
Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« on: March 16, 2022, 09:23:23 pm »
I had a newish phone base station blow during a storm. Looking at the TO92 transistor near the RJ45 socket, it took the brunt of the impact and parts of the transistor blew off along with some of the numbering.



The parts I can still read are:

*R
*94
1383

Things I have done:
1. Tried to duckduck 1383 but all results come back with C1383 and I am not sure if this is a similar part.
2. Used https://alltransistors.com/search.php?search=1383 to find an alternative part for a 1384 TO92 (avoiding the C1383 entries in the list)

I end up with no definitive result.

Would anyone have any ideas here?
Would love to meet up with people in the Canberra/Queanbeyan region who are keen to learn together.
 

Online wraper

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 17822
  • Country: lv
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2022, 09:29:54 pm »
May be some clone of MPSA94. However normally there should be a quite high voltage present to justify its use.
 

Offline sausageTopic starter

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 50
  • Country: au
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2022, 10:12:37 pm »
Thanks, wraper. A possible justification could be for lightning strikes that come up the phone line? We lose a phone or modem a year out here. Would that provide some protection at that rating?
Would love to meet up with people in the Canberra/Queanbeyan region who are keen to learn together.
 

Offline fzabkar

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 2735
  • Country: au
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2022, 11:42:30 pm »
Trace the circuit in the vicinity. That will at least tell you if it is NPN or PNP.
 

Offline abdulbadii

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 350
  • Country: us
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2022, 12:02:49 pm »
might do hard works

- desolder it
- meter it to determine E C B
- then determine polar type, npn or pnp
- reverse engineer the area close to Q schema
- thence might conclude the Q function/characteristic
 

Offline PKTKS

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1766
  • Country: br
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2022, 02:26:50 pm »
May be some clone of MPSA94. However normally there should be a quite high voltage present to justify its use.

MPSA94 is vintage Motorola plastic case.. for Darlingtons and some mid power types

The best clue is the "R" above which should be a manuf. indicator..

Unfortunately there are way too much combinations for the last 2 digits..
with 3 or 4  numbers... 4 would be a guess for a 2N class.
and 3 if so there is the missing letter to the JIS - best shot if PNP/NPN  AB/CD..
( 2SAxxx or 2SCxxx )

any case just the lasting 2 numbers are not enough for a wild guess...

Paul
 

Offline Haenk

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1275
  • Country: de
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2022, 02:31:58 pm »
Honestly, at that position I don't think it has any critical specs to be met (other than voltage).
 

Offline SoundTech-LG

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 791
  • Country: us
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2022, 02:52:56 pm »
2SC1383 was an extremely popular JIS transistor late 70s through the 90s. Note the larger case though. Not sure if they also produced some in the smaller TO-92 style cases.
 

Offline PKTKS

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1766
  • Country: br
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2022, 03:03:13 pm »
2SC1383 was an extremely popular JIS transistor late 70s through the 90s. Note the larger case though. Not sure if they also produced some in the smaller TO-92 style cases.

That makes sense...  for such a vintage Mitsubishi
THE  "R"  suffix  for the  JIS is the tolerance class...
R - red
O - Orange
B - Blue

usually hfe and other stuff
 

Offline BrokenYugo

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1214
  • Country: us
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2022, 11:53:02 pm »
MPSA94 makes some sense, telephone dialing is is the suggested use on the first datasheet I found. Reverse engineer enough to see if a PNP with EBC pinout makes sense there.
 

Offline sausageTopic starter

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 50
  • Country: au
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2022, 11:56:30 pm »
Thanks everyone for your insight. Clearly a multimeter test is too late for this poor little transistor, but I am tracing the area on the board (a mud map) and will post up.
Would love to meet up with people in the Canberra/Queanbeyan region who are keen to learn together.
 

Offline Jeff eelcr

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 306
  • Country: us
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2022, 02:24:38 am »
The letter code following the part number on all japanise transistors is the gain group. It makes matching transistors in audio equipment easy (just by looking). An A with no space after the part number is a part revision, not a gain group which would have a space after the A most will be like Q, R, S and T.  I do not remember the hfe these equeate to, it may be different for different transistors. I have never seen a 2SC1383 in a TO-92 case style.
Jeff
 
The following users thanked this post: abdulbadii

Online Wallace Gasiewicz

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1362
  • Country: us
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2022, 02:40:47 pm »
How about this:

Assume it is an ECB pinout transistor

Turn the unit on
Test the pins with a voltmeter
If pin #1 is positive, it is a PNP
If pin #3 is pos it is an NPN

Probably just a switching or low freq transistor. Put one in and see if it works.
 

Offline DavidAlfa

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 6317
  • Country: es
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2022, 07:21:15 am »
might do hard works

- desolder it
- meter it to determine E C B
- then determine polar type, npn or pnp
- reverse engineer the area close to Q schema
- thence might conclude the Q function/characteristic
:palm: Really? How to you measure a blown transistor?

Hantek DSO2x1x            Drive        FAQ          DON'T BUY HANTEK! (Aka HALF-MADE)
Stm32 Soldering FW      Forum      Github      Donate
 
The following users thanked this post: tooki

Online wraper

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 17822
  • Country: lv
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2022, 11:38:50 am »
:palm: Really? How to you measure a blown transistor?
If its not totally destroyed (probably it is due to explosion), one of the junctions may still measure fine and you could determine if its npn or pnp.
 

Offline DavidAlfa

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 6317
  • Country: es
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2022, 01:43:29 pm »
Have you seen the 1st post picture? :-DD
Hantek DSO2x1x            Drive        FAQ          DON'T BUY HANTEK! (Aka HALF-MADE)
Stm32 Soldering FW      Forum      Github      Donate
 

Offline SpecialK

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 214
  • Country: ca
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2022, 02:16:01 pm »
KSP94 - 400V PNP?
 

Online wraper

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 17822
  • Country: lv
Re: Help identifying a 1383 transistor
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2022, 03:10:39 pm »
Have you seen the 1st post picture? :-DD
Are you able to actually read the post?
If its not totally destroyed (probably it is due to explosion)...
 


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf