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can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« on: October 23, 2021, 03:51:24 pm »
Hi
I can't find any datasheet for the SI8016HSP8 PWM ic.
I think it is fake part number to sell it for higher price.
someone knows real part number?
thanks.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2021, 04:13:03 pm »
I don't know what you mean by fake, but it's used in a Corsair PSU:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-cx650-power-supply-review
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2021, 04:21:34 pm »
LOL. Sell to whom at higher price? Company which produces them does not give a shit about profit from selling them as spare parts.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2021, 05:48:53 pm »
there are some online shops that sell it for about ten times higher than other sop8 PWM ICs.
and because there is no datasheet I thought maybe it's some well known ics that they changed the part number.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2021, 05:52:55 pm »
Most likely there is no datasheet because it's only provided to big guys under NDA.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2021, 07:38:17 pm »
The manufacturer's web site (si-trend.com) is currently blocked.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2021, 08:05:38 pm »
If you want to find a replacement you have to do a bit effort and get the schematics around it, a lot of people here are familiar with SMPS and popular chips and they will most likely recognize what the Chinese cloned.

My entry in the contest  ;D is: https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/ncp1230-d.pdf.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2021, 08:16:33 am »
after I compare the NCP1230 pins to the board looks like it match the pinout of SI8016HSP8.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2021, 08:26:51 am »
There are tons of SMPS controllers which have the same or similar pinout. But it does not mean they are compatible. When finding a substitute, a lot more consideration is needed rather than just comparing the pinouts. There is probably another 10 SMPS controllers from onsemi with the same pinout, does not mean they are the same thing though.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2022, 07:13:10 pm »
I replaced the IC with ncp1200 and it is working fine without changing any thing else.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2022, 07:34:57 pm »
« Last Edit: March 12, 2022, 08:30:14 pm by fzabkar »
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2022, 07:53:18 pm »
It's worth about $3-4 on Chinese shopping site Taobao, a little expensive, but not too expensive, what price do you expect to get this chip for?

« Last Edit: March 12, 2022, 07:57:54 pm by gamalot »
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2022, 01:28:04 pm »
it is about 10$ in my country and ncp1200 is 1$
i used 40kHz version of ncp1200 and mosfet get very hot under load.
do you think if I use 100kHz version it be cooler?
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2022, 04:40:16 pm »
i used 40kHz version of ncp1200 and mosfet get very hot under load.
do you think if I use 100kHz version it be cooler?
The SI-Trend datasheet states "100kHz Switching Frequency with Frequency Hopping for Reducing EMI", so 100kHz would appear to be the design frequency for your circuit.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2022, 08:55:27 pm »
thanks mate.
I will try 100kHz version of ncp1200.
 

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Re: can't find datasheet for SI8016HSP8 PWM ic
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2022, 06:59:17 am »
I checked the board again and I found that 10k resistor connected to pin 3 of IC was 1M and I changed it.
now the mosfet is not hot.
this is the circuit diagram of power supply.
 


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