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Offline Tim TTopic starter

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HP 8165a 5v rail
« on: December 28, 2018, 08:00:38 pm »
Have been working on and off for a year on an HP 8165a that had too many problems to go into detail (tantalum caps, burned resistors, bad zeners, blown 2N2222a BJT, leaky -5v power supply filter cap), but have gotten it back to being usable and am now looking at smaller problems.

A reality check would be appreciated if the +5v power supply filter cap, which is a rather expensive 32000 uF 20v electrolytic, is failing (or something else could be going on). The scope probe is at the rectifier output but before the power transistor.
I know what the text book waveform of rectified and filtered AC should look like, and this isn’t it. Putting a 15000uF cap in parallel has no effect. Replacing the rectifier diodes (Motorola 1901) has no effect. The cap measures OK for capacitance, and checking ESR by putting a 200 KHz square wave through the cap and looking at the waveform on a scope didn't raise any obvious red flags - though in my experience those two measures don't necessarily mean much unless the cap is quite bad.


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tim
 

Offline wn1fju

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Re: HP 8165a 5v rail
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2018, 12:38:41 am »
I'm seeing about half of what you are.  The attached photo was taken with the scope AC coupled - the mean DC voltage measured 7.7V.  The probe was put
across C1 (the main 5V supply filter cap).  The scope is set to 100 mV/div.

Of course, I'm not sure if this matters much since it is the 8V unregulated line.  The real point of interest is the actual 5V output after the pass transistors and
regulation.
 

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Re: HP 8165a 5v rail
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2018, 09:52:09 pm »
Many thanks for the response. I am mostly interested in understanding why the waveform looks as it does and not a classical rectified AC. Yours is similar to mine, not sure why but that tells me something. Have attached picture of AC coupled sampled at same location  (rectifier output).

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