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Title: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: bobbydazzler on March 19, 2023, 06:44:00 am
As the topic states I've killed my router via over voltage.  When I apply usb power now there seems to be a short in the dc-dc converter right after the micro usb jack and it gets really hot really fast.  I'm hoping I can desolder/disconnect the dc-dc power supply and feed 3.3v in via the serial port header and it might still work(I assume the dc-dc converter was outputting 3.3v because apparently the router runs fine with usb power down to 3v).  Here's a photo of my router board, the dc-dc converter is in between the micro usb and usb port, I'm thinking I need to desolder the 5pin ic which I guess is controller the inductor?  Anyone have any thoughts/ideas on what I need to do?[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: daisizhou on March 19, 2023, 06:50:20 am
It is recommended that you try replacing the 5-pin chip.After attempting to unload the 5-pin chip, measure the circuit again for a short circuit fault
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: magic on March 19, 2023, 07:20:27 am
Identify the buck converter. The board may be running on less than 3.3V and you could fry it (if it isn't fried already) by applying 3.3V.
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: DavidAlfa on March 19, 2023, 08:07:46 am
Take a proper image of the DC converter.
You might have been extremely lucky and the short be caused by a capacitor or diode, but I don't think so!
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: bobbydazzler on March 19, 2023, 08:18:03 am
Well I've desoldered the 5pin IC and it fixed the short and after supplying 3.3v to the serial port vcc/gnd pins the router works fine, I can connect fine to my 5ghz wifi access point lol even the full sized USB port still works if I also add the micro usb input power.  Thanks everyone now  need to bodge up a permanent 3.3v power supply.  I wasn't able to identify the IC to make sure the output voltage was 3.3v but I think it's fine now anyway.
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: magic on March 19, 2023, 08:46:59 am
Post a picture, maybe somebody will recognize this chip.

I once fixed a device with a small switcher like that simply by replacing it with LM317, couldn't be assed to identify and repair it properly :-DD
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: bobbydazzler on March 19, 2023, 09:17:49 am
I couldn't read the writing on it before I desoldered it and now it's definitely unreadable after I dumped a giant solder blob on it to remove it, if I do apply I small internal 3.3v power supply to run off usb power I will probably use some AMS 1117's.  The router's pulling 0.350ma on average so I think a AMS 1117 can handle that.
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: DavidAlfa on March 19, 2023, 09:25:46 am
Just clean it thoroughly, some brushing with any solvent will work, marking is usually laser-engraved and won't go away.
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: Miti on March 19, 2023, 10:04:17 am
The USB host must need 5V.
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: shapirus on March 19, 2023, 10:09:58 am
The USB host must need 5V.
Its power pins are probably wired directly to the input jack's one.
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: jonpaul on March 19, 2023, 10:28:06 am
get a new one $3
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: bobbydazzler on March 19, 2023, 11:07:40 am
I can't get a non blurry picture from my camera, I've looked with my magnifying glass and all I can read is FV9VG.. there might be something written after that I can't make out.
Title: Re: I killed my usb powered router by accidentally feeding it 12v..I want to save it
Post by: fzabkar on March 19, 2023, 03:51:04 pm
The marking style looks like Silergy's, in which case the marking would be FVxyz (FV = part ID, x = year, y = week, z = lot number). Unfortunately, Silergy's datasheets are not publicly available.

I think the best you can do is to trace the circuit and try to find a substitute.