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Electronics => Repair => Topic started by: bratboy on April 09, 2021, 09:11:50 pm

Title: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: bratboy on April 09, 2021, 09:11:50 pm
Hi there, I have a question about a corn light I have. I picked it up and opened it and there was a 22 microfarad capacitor that blew up. I'm thinking that's the only thing I need to repair. It's an epoxy. Anybody have any advice on how I can get in there and replace it? I'm not an expert Electronics guy, I'm very basic but I've done repairs in the past.
Title: Re: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: shakalnokturn on April 09, 2021, 10:02:34 pm
Scratch away if you can, you need to remove enough grey stuff, then find the right polarity.
If you're not used to electronics though I'd consider this a hazardous waste of time.
I'm used to electronics and don't bother repairing single "bulb" assemblies...
Title: Re: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: bratboy on April 10, 2021, 06:53:22 pm
Hazardous in what way? It did have a polarized capacitor but I understand you can replace it with a non polarized. Is that right? The thing knocks out a lot of light so I might as well try to make a repair.

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Title: Re: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: BrokenYugo on April 10, 2021, 11:23:48 pm
Hazardous because it's partly or entirely mains referenced. A waste of time because with a failure that violent I'd expect that's a symptom of another, potted, problem.

If this is a ESR sensitive position (again, potting in the way to reverse engineer) a NP cap may not survive.
Title: Re: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: amyk on April 11, 2021, 02:01:09 am
22uF sounds like the main reservoir cap, probably rated 400V. The fact that it exploded suggests you might want o see what caused that first, or the replacement may do the same.

I've not heard of the term "cornlight" before - I guess this is "COB on the corn"...? :-DD
Title: Re: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: bratboy on April 13, 2021, 02:26:24 pm
It's a 50v and yeah cob on a corn sounds right!
Title: Re: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: Syntax Error on April 13, 2021, 02:55:14 pm
The cap could have failed due to poor design, cheap manufacturing, heat stress, over voltage, water ingress or a lightning strike. It's anyone's guess, but LED bulb failures are often less catastrophic than this.

The LEDs may have failed too. Test the strips with a diode meter or low voltage DC source.

Seriously, trash the mains PSU part and keep the LED arrays as they might be usefull for some other project using a safe and proven DC supply.
Title: Re: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: amyk on April 14, 2021, 01:11:58 am
50v is not the mains reservoir cap, but probably output smoothing, in which case the cause of failure is likely the LED string went open-circuit, causing the constant-current driver to raise its output voltage to the max and exceeded the 50v.
Title: Re: Led cornlight? Repair question
Post by: james_s on April 14, 2021, 04:07:45 am
If it wasn't potted I'd say it's a reasonably easy repair, but potted adds a huge amount of labor and difficulty. If I really wanted to salvage something I think I'd cut off the existing driver and wire the LED part to a different driver.