Microscope suggestion

[LEENO]

Hallo, i'm searching for good microscope for mobilephones repair with high magnification at 20cm distance and clear image, hdmi 1080p 60fps.

Now i'm using supereyes b008, but i want higher magnification at higher distance with fast hdmi transfer.

Thanks
Lino Falco

[tec5c]

AmScope SM-4TZ-144A. Can be purchased from Amazon.

[Armadillo]

AmScope SM-4TZ-144A. Can be purchased from Amazon.

+1; X90 + 0.5   

Except AmScope Camera 

[tec5c]

AmScope SM-4TZ-144A. Can be purchased from Amazon.

+1; X90 + 0.5   

Except AmScope Camera 

I've never used any AmScope camera's however you're not the first person to give them a bad rep. Go for an OptixCam 

[Armadillo]

The best heavily duty multi scope arm ever
Recommended add on [because of my extremes]

[LEENO]

Thanks for suggestions,
i prefer the smallest as possible, lens c-mount with camera is not a good choise?
i not watch in microscope, only at monitor

Wich c-mount len give higher magnification at 20cm distance?

[Armadillo]

Thanks for suggestions,
i prefer the smallest as possible, lens c-mount with camera is not a good choise?
i not watch in microscope, only at monitor

Wich c-mount len give higher magnification at 20cm distance?

You want to repair handphone? You need to be able to visualize the depth to aid in micro-soldering and real-time hand eye coordination. You will be the odd ball champion if you can use anything other thing than stereo microscope unless of course if you can afford a mantis [for mantis check eevblog].

Watch industry player example Louis Rossmann



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Sorry IMHO, your bench is not complete if you don't own a proper microscope.!

[agehall]

AmScope microscopes are great for the price, but as already stated - stay far away from their cameras. I have an MU503 (USB3 based 5MP) and it sucks balls. It requires you to have light as bright as the sun or turn up the gain resulting in a really noisy image.

I'm going to upgrade the camera in a not too distant future and I'm tempted to get the Auto Focusing camera AmScope sells. It has HDMI output and is supposed to do 60FPS in 1080p which is just what I need. If anyone happens to own that puppy, I would love to see some raw capture from the camera...

[Armadillo]

AmScope microscopes are great for the price, but as already stated - stay far away from their cameras. I have an MU503 (USB3 based 5MP) and it sucks balls. It requires you to have light as bright as the sun or turn up the gain resulting in a really noisy image.

I'm going to upgrade the camera in a not too distant future and I'm tempted to get the Auto Focusing camera AmScope sells. It has HDMI output and is supposed to do 60FPS in 1080p which is just what I need. If anyone happens to own that puppy, I would love to see some raw capture from the camera...

Yeah!, after so much pain and suffering with their camera, I think they should offer free trial with their new camera, don't you think? Or member good discount.

[LEENO]

What do you think if i use this len replacing camera with sony hdmi camera 1080p 60fps?

https://youtu.be/7sDPKeNVW-8


Or this


https://youtu.be/Zbr_sys5Jkk

[Armadillo]

Depending on what you want to do.
if you aspire to repair handphones and go into micro-soldering, you need to be telling the depth, hence the lens must be at least apart, as far as I know.
Ask yourself if your present system can assure you of where your soldering head is.?
Real-time means during micro-surgery, there is *ZERO* time lag for good hand eye coordination. You need to repair micros to appreciate this absolute necessity.

At least you must peek through the stereo microscope to appreciate the difference and differentiate it and then you can decide for yourself.

If you see Dave and the market players, you will see them can't do without it [though some sponsor speech may be necessary] 

And when you bought one, you will buy two after. 

BTW: The sellers of those usb or hdmi microscope won't be telling you all these. And static images sure look great, try to move your hands under it.

[LEENO]

With sony camera i will have zero time lag. Lens of videos i posted may be good?

Since now i done microsolders with supereyes b008.

i attach photos of some my works with supereyes b008, its very slow

[KL27x]

I have experience with zero lag video-microscopes. They are pretty good. If you have your bench already setup for it, I don't see huge downside. Depth of perception is overrated. If your soldering head is too high, it will be out of focus, anyway. It's the lag that is more important to me, and with the right camera, the lag is potentially imperceptible. They are easier to setup for recording video and taking pictures, as well. Looking away at the monitor might be awkward, but you can set up your bench to make it ergonomic.

I use Amscope, personally. But I wouldn't mind having both.

As far as the lens, I can offer the specs of a the prototypical Amscope for electronics repair. IMO, it has 3-22.5X zoom and about 6" distance between the Barlow and the circuit board. (8" focal distance, but part of that is taken up by the barlow lens and lighting ring).

[cdev]

What is a good example of an entry level stereo zoom microscope?


It turns out that Amscope is a Chinese company, BTW. They are based in Ningbo, which is a bit south of Shanghai. Amscope may sell the products of a bunch of different Ningbo companies.

They make solid microscopes.

[KL27x]

I haven't heard any complaints about the head/optics of the Amscope for the cost. There are some quibbles with the stand. The 20mm steel rods are supposed to be plated in chrome in order to fit properly in the bearings and to handle the pressure. But they are not. This omission leads to some galling of the rod by the ball bearings. Of course, if you have an entry level version without the boom arm, this wouldn't affect you.

I've got the boom arm, and I managed to limit the problem with careful attention to the orientation of the ball bearings. I don't know that I'll ever need anything better, but I'm still looking for the right camera.

[nanofrog]

FWIW, I've an AmScope SM-4TPZ-FRL-5M I bought at the tail-end of February (23rd). Sadly, I've not used it yet (still in the box  ).

[agehall]

I'm tempted to get myself one of these: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1080p-HDMI-USB-SD-digital-microscope-camera-with-SONY-sensor/32464609452.html

The seller has been mentioned on YouTube a couple of times by happy customers. I know buying from China is taking a chance, but I'm willing to deal with that this time.

[Armadillo]

I'm tempted to get myself one of these: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1080p-HDMI-USB-SD-digital-microscope-camera-with-SONY-sensor/32464609452.html

The seller has been mentioned on YouTube a couple of times by happy customers. I know buying from China is taking a chance, but I'm willing to deal with that this time.

 

[Zucca]

I have a AmScope SM-4TZ-144A for sale like new, looking for 450€, it's in the EU. I have a CANON SLR Adapter for it, best way to solve the AmScope camera problem.
PM me if interested.

[Berni]

I am experimenting with making my own using this camera module:
https://www.e-consystems.com/4k-usb-camera.asp

I can post some example pictures later but it gives you 1080p60fps with pretty much no lag. Or it can give you a giant 13 megapixel image at 20fps.

[hs3]

I'm tempted to get myself one of these: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1080p-HDMI-USB-SD-digital-microscope-camera-with-SONY-sensor/32464609452.html

The seller has been mentioned on YouTube a couple of times by happy customers. I know buying from China is taking a chance, but I'm willing to deal with that this time.

These seem to be ToupTek cameras so not just some random Aliexpress special. http://www.touptek.com/
With ToupTek name you can probably find other resellers too but the Aliexpress sellers are probably the lowest cost sources.
I have one of the XCAM1080PHA models and it's surprisingly big and heavy unit which I guess is usually good in this kind thing unless small size and weight are important.

For someone considering the AmScope microscopes outside of US the Aliexpress sellers offering similar looking products may be a significantly cheaper option after shipping cost is considered. There seems to be sellers like fyscope, lucky zoom and others offering 3.5X-90X simul focal trinocular stereo microscope head sets for not much more than the basic model. The sellers then have different kind boom or articulating arm and light options that can be selected from. These look very similar to what Amscope offers but especially considering shipping the price can end up being much less.

[agehall]

The big advantage of dealing with AmScope instead of AliExpress sellers, is that if something doesn't work, you have an american company to deal with as opposed to a chineese seller that may or may not care about your issues. And just imagine the return shipping cost of a scope if you have to send it back for some reason...

With a camera, I can deal with shipping if needed.

hs3 - if you own one, would you mind giving us a bit of feedback on the noise floor of the image? I currently own the camera AmScope sells as MU503 and the image quality that comes out of it is horrible. One needs to turn up the gain to get a decent image at a decent frame rate and when you do that, the image becomes crap as there is just soooooo much noise. I feel horrible for my stream viewers having to watch that crap.

[LEENO]

please show video if possible, thanks

[hs3]

The big advantage of dealing with AmScope instead of AliExpress sellers, is that if something doesn't work, you have an american company to deal with as opposed to a chineese seller that may or may not care about your issues. And just imagine the return shipping cost of a scope if you have to send it back for some reason...

With a camera, I can deal with shipping if needed.

That is of course true that you might get better support from AmScope in case of a problem. Though the impression I got from internet comments about Amscope was that they may be more of a box shifter type operation too. But when the "3.5X-90X Simul-Focal Trinocular Zoom Stereo Microscope Head WF10X/20 SZM2.0X SZM0.5X SZM45TR" head set direct from China was $225 including shipping it seemed worth the risk. Shipping alone for Amscope can cost as much. This is all the optical parts but doesn't include the boom / arm.

hs3 - if you own one, would you mind giving us a bit of feedback on the noise floor of the image? I currently own the camera AmScope sells as MU503 and the image quality that comes out of it is horrible. One needs to turn up the gain to get a decent image at a decent frame rate and when you do that, the image becomes crap as there is just soooooo much noise. I feel horrible for my stream viewers having to watch that crap.

I have not compared to other cameras but it seemed quite acceptable to me.

Optixcam seems to be same ToupTek camera re-branded and if you search on youtube for "optixcam" you should find some videos.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=OPTIXCAM

In this video for example looks like it has the same mouse driven control panel:


How do those compare to the MU503 image?

[agehall]

How do those compare to the MU503 image?

Like night and day. I'll capture some video later today and post it.