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Offline Gyro

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Hi, thanks for the information. Are the failed RIFA capacitors all PME 271 type ?

Yes, those are the ones.
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Don't forget to look inside the mains power socket. Sometimes there is a filter inside it, and guess what... !
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Don't forget to look inside the mains power socket. Sometimes there is a filter inside it, and guess what... !

You mean RIFA filled pipe bomb :(
 

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Hi, thanks for the information. Are the failed RIFA capacitors all PME 271 type ?  Most of the PME271 I have, even the new old stock, NOS, have cracks. I also have RIFA PMZ2050M NOS but without cracks. Regards.

RIFA/Kemet (whatever they call themselves in the future) PME, PMZ, PMR, PZB & PMP are all metallized paper types, throw them away unless you like the random RIFA madness failures, best place for paper based capacitors, is in history books and/or a museum.

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Im in the middle of recapping the P/S on an HP 8080A. Found all the rifas but still something wrong... test pins at the p/s are all reading correctly (A = 11.8v,  B = 5v ~ 1.8v saw, etc.) but nothing at the multicon. Hoping someone has a schematic or a link.
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Im in the middle of recapping the P/S on an HP 8080A. Found all the rifas but still something wrong... test pins at the p/s are all reading correctly (A = 11.8v,  B = 5v ~ 1.8v saw, etc.) but nothing at the multicon. Hoping someone has a schematic or a link.

Don't know what you mean by "multicon".

Don't forget the ripple (AC) voltage is as important as the mean (DC) voltage, and is a better indicator of whether the bulk capacitors have dried out.
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Im in the middle of recapping the P/S on an HP 8080A. Found all the rifas but still something wrong... test pins at the p/s are all reading correctly (A = 11.8v,  B = 5v ~ 1.8v saw, etc.) but nothing at the multicon. Hoping someone has a schematic or a link.
THx!

Almost all HP manuals are easily available on the WWW. I'd be surprised if this wasn't.

If you are very unlucky it will be a PSU HP bought in from another company, and the schematic isn't available.
 

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The manual with circuit diagrams for the HP 8080A is on ElektroTanya, for some unknown reason keysight haven't got the pdf anymore, but do have some for the plug-in modules; https://elektrotanya.com/hp_agilent-technologies_8080a_frequency_generator.pdf/download.html#dl

Seems to be a switching based supply, with linear regulators for each secondary outputs, probably best to start a new thread for the repair.

David
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