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Electronics => Repair => Topic started by: SilverSolder on January 20, 2022, 12:48:05 am

Title: Planned Obsolescence - Dynamic Obsolescence
Post by: SilverSolder on January 20, 2022, 12:48:05 am

Interesting video from Veritasium...   Nothing new under the sun, planned obsolescence has been with us for around 100 years...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE)
Title: Re: Planned Obsolescence - Dynamic Obsolescence
Post by: whatboy on January 20, 2022, 06:57:05 am
Clearlly shows you, there are evil people who just care about money, and nothing else...
Title: Re: Planned Obsolescence - Dynamic Obsolescence
Post by: SL4P on January 20, 2022, 07:16:03 am
… vs Poor Design,
Title: Re: Planned Obsolescence - Dynamic Obsolescence
Post by: Kleinstein on January 20, 2022, 09:09:03 am
For the light bulbs the temperature of the filament effects the lamps lifetime and the efficiency. So while it is possible to make light bulbs that last longer, they would also consume more power or give less light. The 1000 h life time may be a reasonable compromise between the costs for a new bulb every now and than and the costs for the electricity. In later times with the cheap bulbs the 1000 hour bulbs were likely a little on the cold side and a bulb running hotter and lasting only 500 hours may have been more economic.

Getting a standard for the bulb life, made the bulbs more comparable and this way even helped competiotion and consumers. So while they may have had bad intentions - the result was more like a good thing.
Title: Re: Planned Obsolescence - Dynamic Obsolescence
Post by: HighVoltage on January 20, 2022, 09:23:15 am
Eastern German light bulbs and those from other east European countries lasted 5000 h or longer. Only the West had the cartels to regulate the lifetime of a light bulb. I think this is not a conspiracy anymore and has been proven fact for many years.
Title: Re: Planned Obsolescence - Dynamic Obsolescence
Post by: SilverSolder on January 20, 2022, 04:47:21 pm

Interesting how the "fashion" aspect is referred to as "dynamic obsolescence" lol.

Is that why Keysight's new instruments are black, vs. the previous white ones?  (No prizes for guessing, LOL)
Title: Re: Planned Obsolescence - Dynamic Obsolescence
Post by: whatboy on January 20, 2022, 10:39:18 pm
It is also well known that printers and bateries have a counter, when it goes to zero, it is gonsky! even if there is still enough life on the devices!
Title: Re: Planned Obsolescence - Dynamic Obsolescence
Post by: SilverSolder on January 21, 2022, 06:41:42 pm
It is also well known that printers and bateries have a counter, when it goes to zero, it is gonsky! even if there is still enough life on the devices!

In fact, Canon was charged in a class action lawsuit, for disabling all the functions of a multi-function device when the ink ran out, e.g. it could no longer be used as a scanner because it was low on ink!  :D

Lucifer himself will be inspired to innovate and create a completely new level of experience in hell just for the geniuses behind these kinds of ideas!