Author Topic: [SOLVED] Rohde and Schwarz SMIQ06ATE to Rohde and Schwarz SMIQ06B (Read 4208 times)

charlyd · « **on:** March 01, 2020, 08:23:01 pm »

Hello i have the possibility to buy a Rohde and Schwarz SMIQ06ATE . as far as i know this unit doesn t have a display, so i think also no driver board.

Is there a way to build in a display/front panel from a 03 or SMIQ06B parts unit?

Who can help me on track if there is a way to build in a display/front panel inside the SMIQ06ATE version ? or is the unit totally different?

from what i found on the web there should be software for the ATE version.. can anybody PM me and help me out with the software( see picture from the web)?

DaJMasta · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2020, 01:26:17 am »

It's speculation, but I'd assume the front display module from most SMIQ (and probably SMT and SME) units would do. There is some cpu upgrade option that I think all SMIQs (maybe just the ones with the newer style back panel?) had that you may want to add back into the display/front panel module you find, but I assume it's matched parts.

The service manuals may have some specifics on the variants that show your the modules, that may be the best confirmation. I assume the ATE versions still have the CPU board (something's gotta control it) that resides in the back of the display module, but normally that whole front panel section including controls and screen is its own subassembly, at least if I remember correctly.

smgvbest · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2020, 09:23:04 pm »

If I have understood some of the info on the displays they can be specific to a series of the unit
ie a SMIQ03 display may not work on a SMIQ06 but this is not a given. I think I was in the service manual when I read about that but for the life of me I cant find it again

chrisl · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2020, 07:57:12 am »

You have 2 options:
1. use the SMIQ TV software to control the unit. you can download the SW form the R&S site: https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/applications/r-s-smiq-abfs-tv-smiq-abfs-remote-display-application-note_56280-15732.html
2. if you have a SMIQ part unit you can just transfer the display section. I have done it many years ago and it still works fine. It was not too difficult and took me an hour or so to do it... I also moved the RF connector and I/Q connectors to the front panel as well at the same time.

charlyd · « **Reply #4 on:** March 14, 2020, 12:21:52 pm »

Hi chrisL you can view local but also with remote Tv view after the convertion. i mean does the functionality stays in place or is it FW related.

and what about the options can i bring them over....i mean the parts unit is fully loaded with options.

Jwalling · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2020, 05:45:17 pm »

Might be possible to use one from a CMD80. They can be had for short money...

chrisl · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2020, 05:59:51 am »

Quote from: charlyd on March 14, 2020, 12:21:52 pm

Hi chrisL you can view local but also with remote Tv view after the convertion. i mean does the functionality stays in place or is it FW related.

and what about the options can i bring them over....i mean the parts unit is fully loaded with options.

The remote SW works fine.
All you doing is adding the missing display, and nothing is changing on the SMIQ06ATE (or SMIQ06L).
Open the front display section and transfer the only missing parts. Do not swap the controller board, it wont work.

charlyd · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2020, 10:02:21 am »

Ok, But it is a unit with a lot of options installed and i want to change over the options also. i mean they are also in the SMIQ03B. isnt that possible to swap them also to the 06ATE unit?

why isn t that possible? different FW or do they have to be registered to the unit? all keys are on the back side.

charlyd · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2020, 10:19:27 am »

at last i got my smiq06ate in and a first power on
told me ram battery is low i know from the 06B it has a cr2477n battery in the front panel. but i can not find it in the smiq06ate

where is it located and what type of battery is installed there

charlyd · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2020, 04:01:19 pm »

hi today i got a complete display set in and builded it in. do i need to remove a jumper/ change a setting/ dosomething to get a picture out of the unit my backlight is working ok but my text (contrast) is very faded... nearly can see it.
any tips what to do where to test?

when i turn the brightness or contrast buttons i see changement the whole screen lighten more up but not the text...

nctnico · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2020, 06:20:32 pm »

There must be a contrast potmeter connection somewhere. See if that has been fitted.

Hopefully I (at last) will have some time for my SMIQ TFT screen conversion project which is on the back burner for over a year already. I already ordered a nice 10.3" 1280x480 (dual VGA) wide screen TFT display which should fit.

DaJMasta · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2020, 10:16:23 pm »

It's been my experience that SMIQ screens are often very low contrast, but the knob to adjust it is typically present on units with a screen and can be adjusted to something usable - I find that you want to adjust for maximum contrast and then adjust the brightness to try and enhance that somewhat. A potentiometer could be on an aftermarket screen, but a monochrome LCD's contrast is generally just the bias applied, so even if there isn't a built in pot to adjust, it's probably set by a resistor or a resistor divider somewhere on the board.

charlyd · « **Reply #12 on:** May 24, 2020, 10:23:30 am »

hi thanks, for your replies. my board from SMIQ06ATE has both 2 (red squared) potentiometers for contrast and brightness which were initially covered in the front panel with black caps. Now i sticked in the 2 original knobs so i can make adjustments but i see something happening in the screen when turning one or the other.

but it is so very faded that i nearly can see anything… does these displays have known issues? OPTREX DMF-50161N in the backlight or board or is this located in my 06ATE board where the red pots are located.

i see far, very far away, when i look on a specific angle to the screen the text very dimm on the display the same tekst as what i see on my smiq-tv software

charlyd · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2020, 11:07:40 am »

hi today i investigated my front panel board called. "rechner II / Fast CPU- II" and i tried to follow the red pots tracks for brightness & contrast. because i think contrast is not working. but that is a hell of a job... because of the Multilayer board. but i worked out that it should end on the grey vertical flatcable connector on the side of the board. Both pots are routed there.
i cannot find any schematic which is a little bit like this config.
my board is a 1084.8004.12. and i am curious if swapping out the board fixes the display problem or did i receive a bad display kit.

any tips or spare board for testing.?

DaJMasta · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2020, 04:15:20 pm »

Shouldn't need a spare board (would likely cost you a couple hundred bucks), what you need is already there! The pots are through hole. so you can measure on the back to see if they're within their rated value or if they just need to be replaced. Then anything going to the screen (including the contrast bias voltage) has to go to the screen, so you can adjust the pot while probing the connector going to the screen to find out what correlates and then you can verify it or attempt to inject your own bias (maybe try to find the spec for the screen to verify it's within its limits) to see if you can get more out of the existing screen.

charlyd · « **Reply #15 on:** May 26, 2020, 06:15:54 am »

Thanks DaJMasta for your reply. do you know if these pots die often or? I will check them and come back here with the results. i couldn t find anything datasheet/ schematic or so. So help is wanted for sure.

charlyd · « **Reply #16 on:** June 15, 2020, 11:01:53 am »

after doing a deeper dive i found a broken pot of 200K. i had one normal pot lying arround for testing ...

so now i am looking for this pot 200K version or a good replacement.

and i got a picture..

can anybody help me out please PM me if yes.

charlyd · « **Reply #17 on:** June 16, 2020, 06:23:25 pm »

i did some research and ordered a bourns 3360P-1-204LF pot i only have to find out a way to make the axe square.

[edit:] today i received the original pots from R&S and after placement. everything worked ok.

biastee · « **Reply #18 on:** May 25, 2023, 02:25:51 pm »

Quote from: chrisl on March 04, 2020, 07:57:12 am

You have 2 options:
1. use the SMIQ TV software to control the unit. you can download the SW form the R&S site: https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/applications/r-s-smiq-abfs-tv-smiq-abfs-remote-display-application-note_56280-15732.html

I bought a used SMIQ06L which does not have a display. I tried to control it with the SMIQ TV software, but it returned the error message "The device connected to GPIB is no SMIQ....." (attached image). I have changed the GPIB address on the software to match the sig-gen (#14), but the software still couldn't connect. My gpib interface is Agilent 82357B and my PC is Windows 10.
On the other hand, Agilent Connection Expert could detect the sig-gen on GPIB #14 (attached image). Sending an "IDN?" successfully resulted in the sig-gen replying with its model, serial no. and firmware version (attached image).
Please help. TIA.

Amphion · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2024, 01:50:45 am »

Quote from: biastee on May 25, 2023, 02:25:51 pm

I bought a used SMIQ06L which does not have a display. I tried to control it with the SMIQ TV software, but it returned the error message "The device connected to GPIB is no SMIQ....."

I have the same setup/same problem. I have also tried installing on XP machine to no avail. Did you find a solution?


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