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Offline FlyingHacker

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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2017, 07:31:37 pm »
I believe the unit specific calibration constants are stored in each chip. So you really need to read the old values and copy them, or do a full recal.

I like this idea of replacing the battery with an external one. Got any pics/videos of this?
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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2017, 07:53:46 pm »
I don't remember where I originally saw it, on a forum for older Sun workstations I think. I've done it on the NVRAM chip they use since there is a peculiarity that prevents the supposedly equivalent modern replacements from working. If you put the chip in a vice and file into the top you will find the battery, but read the contents out first since removing the battery will cause them to be lost.

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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2017, 01:15:39 pm »
Hello all:

Looking deeper on A5 I found other corrosion damage near the SMD electrolytics, and 3 SMD tantalum caps known to fail

Here is a good link on Groups.io about recapping the PSU and A5 with part nos:
https://groups.io/g/TekScopes/topic/2465b_power_supply_sprague/974763?p=Created,,,20,1,20,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,20,2,900,974763

scroll to Tothwolf 10/15/15   #121345    On Thu, 15 Oct 2015, vdonisa

1/ It seems A5 underwent several revs and versions of mod, the SN is critical to locate the coprrect doc.

2/ Lytics are 5mm dia and bypass +/-15 and +5, alsong with nearby 100 nF monothlyics.

3/ As A5 has ADC, DAC and demux for FP controls, corrosion on the board can produce very odd symptoms.

4/ A5 is the ONLY SMD board, all others are thru hole.

5/ Replaceing the Dallas NV RAM: Maxim took over Dallas Semi,  and its on DigiKey.
http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS1225Y.pdf
As a 28 pin DIP its easy to swap, especially if you add a socket.

My BIG issue: I have NO programmers for NVRAM, and recalibration is a huge deal. Anyone out there have the capability to read and program the NV RAM?

 As I have several with these same NVRAMS, any help is appreciated.

Cheers,

Jon



 

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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2017, 07:47:59 pm »
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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2017, 08:26:24 pm »
The programmer is not a big deal, I have a TL866 that handles all this sort of stuff, they're cheap enough that it's worth having one around for that odd time you might need to program or dump a memory IC. As an added bonus it will program lots of different PIC and AVR micrcontrollers, and odd stuff like GALs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Speed-TL866CS-Programmer-USB-EPROM-EEPROM-FLASH-BIOS-AVR-AL-PIC-/191816776888?
 

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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2017, 08:41:36 pm »
Hello all: Just getting to order the programmer. All the TL866 on epay seems the same, and from China:

"High-Speed-TL866CS-Programmer-USB-EPROM-EEPROM"

Anyone have experience with these? Instruction/software in English? Pitfalls to use on the Dallas DS1225?

Any tips are appreciated,


Cheers,

Jon

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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2017, 09:17:52 pm »
Hello all: Just getting to order the programmer. All the TL866 on epay seems the same, and from China:

"High-Speed-TL866CS-Programmer-USB-EPROM-EEPROM"

Anyone have experience with these? Instruction/software in English? Pitfalls to use on the Dallas DS1225?

Any tips are appreciated,


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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2017, 11:04:02 am »
Hello again: Anyone had experience with QService Greece lately for TEK parts?

Need the Dallas NV RAM and an odd knob shaft etc.
377-0512-03 INSERT,KNOB


156-2991-00 Dallas NV RAM DS-1225Y-200 64K Programmable NV-SRAM


They seem to have no stock on the NV RAM: Looking for one programmed....and with a fresh not 20yrs old date code!

Any tips?


Cheers,

Jon

I recently bought a replacement Dallas at Mouser, and I got one with a 1614 timestamp.
But, this is the newer kind with the battery disconnected till the first use, so I should be OK for the next 10-25 years... :-)

Un saludo,

Satbeginner (Leo)
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Re: TEK 2467B Odd failure
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2017, 11:09:35 am »
Hello all: Just getting to order the programmer. All the TL866 on epay seems the same, and from China:

"High-Speed-TL866CS-Programmer-USB-EPROM-EEPROM"

Anyone have experience with these? Instruction/software in English? Pitfalls to use on the Dallas DS1225?

Any tips are appreciated,


Cheers,

Jon

Hi,

I just finished a repair and general overhaul of a 2465B, and used the TL866 to read/write the Dallas.

Read here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/2465b-tektronix-repair-missing-a5-smd-version-board/

I found one little thing: choose the right type of Dallas in the MiniPro program! not the "DS1225 TEST", but the "DS1225 R/W"
Any action with the first chiptype will erase your existing chip loosing the calibration... (happened to me..  :--, but, I had to calibrate anyway, because my A5 came from another 2465B )

Succes!!

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« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 11:14:37 am by Satbeginner »
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