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Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« on: June 19, 2017, 06:17:47 pm »
Hi all,

I have been working intermittently for six years |O on a seemingly impossible to finish project. I had the (bad) luck to get my first CSA-8000, a cheap one coming from eBay.de, on 2011 . It was clearly a unit which someone has tried to fix and had let it go... Now I know why!!!

I documented my first attempts to get it working on my WEB:

http://jvgavila.com/csa8000.htm

Well, to make a very long story short, I have worked so far on six units (five CSA-8000 and one TDS-8000, which are exactly the same). Four of them are mine. None of them works fine yet... The best unit, which I was able to get running on Windows 98 (it was an old hardware unit), even passing the compensation procedure, decided to stop working and have not had the nerve to get back to it. For the other three units, one is a parts unit, and the other two, which run Windows 2000 software, work BUT don't pass the compensation procedure.

All in all, it seems to me that the acquisition board (ACQ BOARD) is the most delicate item on these units. There are several versions of it and I have seen that the hardware has some patches on it which probably are needed to comply with some specifications. These patches are small plug-in circuits. I have seen units with just one of them and other with five of them. Then there are some ACQ boards which have the STROBE coax cables connected and some which not. And they don't seem to be fully interchangeable.

Of course, another very common problem is the NVRAM batteries. There are three of them and all go bad. I have replaced quite a bit of them and have managed to fix the POWER PC non-booting problem but then, the battery on the ACQ BOARD generates calibration faults. I wonder if someone has found the correct way to re-calibrate the mainframe and get rid of those faults.

So, please, could you share your work on these units?. I hope someday to have at least one fully working mainframe  ::)

Regards,

Jose
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2017, 10:49:18 am »
This may help
https://forum.tek.com/viewtopic.php?t=138009

Thanks, I will sure use that info!

Now I am dealing with an XP Upgrade for the CSA8000, which is being kind of a nightmare  :(

After several attempts, I had (read later) been able to run the latest version of the Tek software (5.2.1.3), but the front panel did not respond nor the touch panel. I guess that is a matter of XP drivers, right?

To be sure it was not a hardware problem, I have reinstalled the old mainboard with Windows 98 software. But the PC refuses to boot as the BIOS battery was gone and, after replacement, there is no way to enter the BIOS. I have seen you commented on the Tek forum, some years ago, about a program to corrupt the time & date on the BIOS. I wonder if you can share it with me.

OK, so I have returned back to the XP mainboard... to find that now there is no way to properly boot the Windows XP!. It keeps on the welcome display (the one with the progress bar) forever. In safe mode I can get it to boot. But I don't understand why now it does not boot as it did some hours ago  |O

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Jose
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2017, 02:17:10 pm »
Well, I have got back to work the Windows XP installation, except for the touch display and the front panel controls. Any hint on this?  :-//

As I have two other semi-working units, the other questions about getting into BIOS on the Intel BL440ZX mainboard remain.

Regards,

Jose
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2017, 05:19:10 pm »
This may help
https://forum.tek.com/viewtopic.php?t=138009

Thanks, I will sure use that info!

Now I am dealing with an XP Upgrade for the CSA8000, which is being kind of a nightmare  :(

After several attempts, I had (read later) been able to run the latest version of the Tek software (5.2.1.3), but the front panel did not respond nor the touch panel. I guess that is a matter of XP drivers, right?

To be sure it was not a hardware problem, I have reinstalled the old mainboard with Windows 98 software. But the PC refuses to boot as the BIOS battery was gone and, after replacement, there is no way to enter the BIOS. I have seen you commented on the Tek forum, some years ago, about a program to corrupt the time & date on the BIOS. I wonder if you can share it with me.

Jose

Hi Jose,
I sent the file to your email. Did you get it?
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2017, 05:23:01 pm »
Hi Jay,

Did you use the GMAIL account?. I have not got it. One trick is to send it with a different extension, like '.ex0' so it is not interpreted as an executable file by the e-mail server. I have also looked on the spam filter but there is no sign of it.

Thanks!

Jose
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2017, 09:46:15 am »
Hi Jay,

Did you use the GMAIL account?. I have not got it. One trick is to send it with a different extension, like '.ex0' so it is not interpreted as an executable file by the e-mail server. I have also looked on the spam filter but there is no sign of it.

Thanks!

Jose

Hi Jose,
Must have gotten deleted by the server. Here it is. There's a nasty bug in many of the motherboards in the TDS6000 7000 and 8000 scopes and that won't allow you to get into the BIOS setup under some conditions. It will say that it's entering setup, but will skip past it instead and try to PXE boot. This MS-DOS executable will corrupt the contents of the CMOS, and allow you to enter the BIOS setup again.
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2017, 09:57:14 am »
Hi Jose,
Must have gotten deleted by the server. Here it is. There's a nasty bug in many of the motherboards in the TDS6000 7000 and 8000 scopes and that won't allow you to get into the BIOS setup under some conditions. It will say that it's entering setup, but will skip past it instead and try to PXE boot. This MS-DOS executable will corrupt the contents of the CMOS, and allow you to enter the BIOS setup again.

Yes, this is exactly what happened to two of my units. On first one, I thought the board was bad. But, when it happened on another one, I searched on Internet and found your comments on that problem  :-+

I will report back when I have the chance to check this on those units.

I am still fighting with the XP problem with the front panel controls and touch panel. The touch panel is even listed as a device on XP and the software for it, from 3M, is present and works. I wonder if it could be a problem with the POWER PC board, as those items are directly connected to it.

Regards,

Jose
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2017, 11:33:35 am »
Was it working with the original O/S?
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2017, 11:55:25 am »
Was it working with the original O/S?

That is the reason to fix the Intel BL440ZX mainboard with your program ;)

Once I get into BIOS and have the mainboard back to working condition, I will try it with the Windows 98 SE installation.

Regards,

Jose
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2017, 08:25:23 pm »
Was it working with the original O/S?

Well, I have had some time to check your program. Brilliant !!!  :-+ :-+ :-+

I have been able to enter BIOS settings on the Intel BL440ZX mainboard and then restart the unit with the old Windows 98 SE software (which came with the unit). With it, the touch panel and the front panel controls work flawlessly :D

So it seems a matter of Windows XP software. I will reinstall the Windows XP-compatible mainboard and will try to get the unit fully working. I will let you know what I find.

Thanks again!

Jose
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2017, 08:32:05 pm »
There are other threads discussing the close cousin of your scope:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-csa7404-repair-project/
I think the PC motherboard is the same. Somebody over there discussed the subject of drivers for Win XP and they might even be posted at Tin's web site.
Good luck  :)
 
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2017, 09:38:33 pm »
There are other threads discussing the close cousin of your scope:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-csa7404-repair-project/
I think the PC motherboard is the same. Somebody over there discussed the subject of drivers for Win XP and they might even be posted at Tin's web site.
Good luck  :)

Yes, I found the reason on that thread  :clap:

This is the relevant information:

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The only hardware configuration necessary is to set the two USB jumpers for the front panel setting as the second USB port is used to connect to the oscilloscope's front panel through the NLX backplane connector.

Once I have modified the default jumper position, on next boot the front panel controls and the touch panel have worked fine  :-+

Now for the next problem: compensation fails on this unit. And also on my two other semi-working units!  |O

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Jose
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2017, 06:38:56 pm »
Hey,
I'm working on fixing one of these too. By any chance do you know what the B: drive is. I've been looking all over for it. I have a feeling that it has to do with the NLX interface because I've tried plugging in different drives, removing them, swapping out the RAM, etc. I'm getting some floppy discs tomorrow so I'm guessing that I can just put a DOS program on there and execute the CMOS file (As I have the same issue with getting into the BIOS). I so happened to just have one, and I got something only once, but then it never booted to the Floppy again, which I thought was weird. One other interesting artifact that I found was that the PowerPC doesn't ever get past a certain point. I have attached the output below:

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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

romPost: MPC106  Walking-one passed.

romPost: MPC106 configuration passed.

romPost: First PCI access  passed.

romPost: PC87560 Walking-one passed.

romPost: PC87560 configuration passed.

romPost: DEC21554 configuration passed.


romPost: PERFORMING ROM CHECKSUM TEST...

romPost: ROM checksum passed.


romPost: PERFORMING DRAM CELL TEST...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.

romPost: DRAM Cell test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE OFF...
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE ON...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: DRAM Walking-one test passed.

romPost: PERFORMING NV-MEMORY WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: NV-MEMORY Walking-one test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.


romPost: POWER-UP DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETE.

Hel











                            VxWorks System Boot



Copyright 1984-1996  Wind River Systems, Inc.






CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740

Version: 5.3.1

BSP version: 1.0.3.0

Creation date: Jun 28 2000, 16:52:12





Press any key to stop auto-boot...

 1
 0

auto-booting...



boot device          : sm

processor number     : 0

host name            : host

file name            : c:\progra~1\tdscsa~1\firmware\vxWorks.st

inet on ethernet (e) : 192.168.0.2:ffffff00

inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.2:ffffff00

host inet (h)        : 192.168.0.1

gateway inet (g)     : 192.168.0.2

user (u)             : anonymous

ftp password (pw)    : anonymous

flags (f)            : 0x1008

target name (tn)     : target

startup script (s)   : c:\progra~1\tdscsa~1\firmware\dio.vsh

other (o)            : nvfs=0x1000


Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done.

Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done

But It never gets passed the Backplane anchor,
Any ideas?
This program is in the Flash on the Motherboard. The HDD seems like it's broken because it rattles, but when I plug it into a converter I am able to get all of the files off of it (so I made a backup). So I am kind of stuck here. I mean the other possibility is that this is just a motherboard issue, so I have a motherboard on its way to see how that turns out. Anyways if you have any input or thoughts on the problem(s), I'm all ears.

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2017, 08:07:50 pm »
Hello!

This is the correct boot of my Windows XP system right now:

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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

romPost: MPC106  Walking-one passed.

romPost: MPC106 configuration passed.

romPost: First PCI access  passed.

romPost: PC87560 Walking-one passed.

romPost: PC87560 configuration passed.

romPost: DEC21554 configuration passed.


romPost: PERFORMING ROM CHECKSUM TEST...

romPost: ROM checksum passed.


romPost: PERFORMING DRAM CELL TEST...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.

romPost: DRAM Cell test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE OFF...
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE ON...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: DRAM Walking-one test passed.

romPost: PERFORMING NV-MEMORY WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: NV-MEMORY Walking-one test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.


romPost: POWER-UP DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETE.

Hel











                            VxWorks System Boot



Copyright 1984-1996  Wind River Systems, Inc.






CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740

Version: 5.3.1

BSP version: 1.0.3.0

Creation date: Jun 28 2000, 16:52:12





Press any key to stop auto-boot...

 1
 0

auto-booting...



boot device          : sm

processor number     : 0

host name            : host

file name            : c:\progra~1\tdscsa~1\firmware\vxWorks.st

inet on ethernet (e) : 192.168.0.2:ffffff00

inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.2:ffffff00

host inet (h)        : 192.168.0.1

gateway inet (g)     : 192.168.0.2

user (u)             : anonymous

ftp password (pw)    : anonymous

flags (f)            : 0x1008

target name (tn)     : target

startup script (s)   : c:\progra~1\tdscsa~1\firmware\dio.vsh

other (o)            : nvfs=0x1000


Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done.

Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done

done.

Attaching network interfacPC1 dio device driver installed
e lo0... done.

Attaching DIO client... done.

Loading c:\progra~1\tdscsa~1\firmware\vxWorks.st...1771964

Starting at 0x200000...


Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1de0000... done.

Backplane anchor at 0x1de0000... Attaching network interface sm0... done

done.

PC1 dio device driver installed
Attaching network interface lo0... done.


Adding 6006 symbols for standalone.

 


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 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       KERNEL: WIND version 2.5

 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       Copyright Wind River Systems, Inc., 1984-1997


                               CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740.  Processor #0.

                              Memory Size: 0x2000000.  BSP version 1.0.3.5.

                             WDB: Ready.


usrNvFsInit: NAME=/nvram BASE=0xfd0ff100 BPB=512 BPT=8 NB=8 BO=0

nvfs: STATUS: Mounting existing NVRAM file system

KERNEL: THERMAL CONTROL INITIATED

Executing startup script c:\progra~1\tdscsa~1\firmware\dio.vsh ...

dbFsIoctl: invalid code 3

cd "c:/progra~1/tdscsa~1/firmware"

value = 0 = 0x0

*0xfec00000 = 0x04b00080;*0xfee00000 = 0x17009002

ppp_parms + 0xfe84f680 = 0xfec00000: value = 78643328 = 0x4b00080

ppp_parms + 0xfea4f680 = 0xfee00000: value = 385912834 = 0x17009002

*0xfec00000 = 0x88a10080;*0xfee00000 = 0x01800000

ppp_parms + 0xfe84f680 = 0xfec00000: value = -2002714496 = 0x88a10080 = ppp_parms + 0x8865f700

ppp_parms + 0xfea4f680 = 0xfee00000: value = 25165824 = 0x1800000

*0xfe008002 = 0;*0xfe00800e = 0;*0xfe008012 = 0

ppp_parms + 0xfdc57682 = 0xfe008002: value = 0 = 0x0

ppp_parms + 0xfdc5768e = 0xfe00800e: value = 0 = 0x0

ppp_parms + 0xfdc57692 = 0xfe008012: value = 0 = 0x0

symSyncTimeoutSet 600000

value = 600000 = 0x927c0

ld <hi32.o

value = 31002016 = 0x1d90da0 = Hi32SystemProcessorBoard + 0xa98

Hi32SystemProcessorBoard = 1

Hi32SystemProcessorBoard = 0x1d90308: value = 1 = 0x1

CmdDspDevName = "/dev/cmddsp0"

new symbol "CmdDspDevName" added to symbol table.

CmdDspDevName = 0x1d90cc0: value = 31002464 = 0x1d90f60 = CmdDspDevName + 0x2a0

hi32Drv

value = 0 = 0x0

hi32DevCreate CmdDspDevName,0x80006000,0xa0000000,3

value = 0 = 0x0

ld <cmddsp.o

value = 31000320 = 0x1d90700 = Hi32SystemProcessorBoard + 0x3f8

ld <acqdsp.o

value = 31000800 = 0x1d908e0 = Hi32SystemProcessorBoard + 0x5d8

ld <diagcmddsp.o

value = 31008192 = 0x1d925c0

ld <diagModule_wmp.o

value = 31007552 = 0x1d92340

ld < systemLibraryCode.o

value = 31007104 = 0x1d92180

CSSDefaultDioDisable=0

CSSDefaultDioDisable = 0x1b203e0: value = 0 = 0x0

semInitForQueueCheckLogMsg

value = 31001312 = 0x1d90ae0 = Hi32SystemProcessorBoard + 0x7d8

ld < nvSysLib.o

value = 30999648 = 0x1d90460 = Hi32SystemProcessorBoard + 0x158

ld < bucket.o

value = 31003968 = 0x1d91540 = CmdDspDevName + 0x880

MathMeasCreateMappingFcns = 1

MathMeasCreateMappingFcns = 0x1a541f0: value = 1 = 0x1

TmgrExecuteAllMappingFunctionsEnable=1

TmgrExecuteAllMappingFunctionsEnable = 0x1a506f4: value = 1 = 0x1

ld < as.o

value = 28451296 = 0x1b221e0

ld < ifcProxy.o

value = 28450720 = 0x1b21fa0

acqCheckForCmdDsp=1

new symbol "acqCheckForCmdDsp" added to symbol table.

acqCheckForCmdDsp = 0x1d90660: value = 1 = 0x1

ld < rtlLibTarget.o

value = 28337696 = 0x1b06620

ld < slotMgrLightLibTarget.o

value = 28294080 = 0x1afbbc0

sysExtMemAddToPool memSysPartId ,0x02000000 ,0x02000000

value = 0 = 0x0

MathMeasDisableParseExpr = 1

new symbol "MathMeasDisableParseExpr" added to symbol table.

MathMeasDisableParseExpr = 0x3fff400: value = 1 = 0x1

use100Breakpoints=1

use100Breakpoints = 0x12ebd5c: value = 1 = 0x1

pWfmMemPool=0

pWfmMemPool = 0x1ab1d60: value = 0 = 0x0

AcqLibFourChannelProto = 0

new symbol "AcqLibFourChannelProto" added to symbol table.

AcqLibFourChannelProto = 0x3fff3a0: value = 0 = 0x0

AcqExecHardWireChannelSources = 0

AcqExecHardWireChannelSources = 0xf8b450: value = 0 = 0x0

doTekprobeExec=1

doTekprobeExec = 0x1060e20: value = 1 = 0x1

pDbDev = ramDevCreate(0, 640, 1024, 1024, 0)

new symbol "pDbDev" added to symbol table.

pDbDev = 0x3f5f2c0: value = 67105536 = 0x3fff300

pDBfs  = dosFsMkfs("/db", pDbDev)

new symbol "pDBfs" added to symbol table.

pDBfs = 0x3f5dba0: value = 66449888 = 0x3f5f1e0

copy ("TDS666.DBF", "/db/TDS666.DBF")

value = 0 = 0x0

dbPath = "/db/"

new symbol "dbPath" added to symbol table.

dbPath = 0x3f5daa0: value = 66444064 = 0x3f5db20 = dbPath + 0x80

wfmMemInit 0

value = 54057344 = 0x338d980

jNVInitMgrs

value = 0 = 0x0

TmgrInit(dbPath)

value = 0 = 0x0

rtlInit

value = 0 = 0x0

MathMeasCreateTheMathandMeasurementLibraries

value = 48238240 = 0x2e00ea0

initAcqMapper

value = 48126784 = 0x2de5b40

autosetMapInit

value = 48126336 = 0x2de5980

mathMapperInit

value = 0 = 0x0

initUtilityMapper

value = 48119488 = 0x2de3ec0

initWfmXmtrMapper

value = 48115040 = 0x2de2d60

commInit__Fv

value = 0 = 0x0

JanusProxyInit

value = 48082048 = 0x2ddac80

acqExecAllocUploadBuffers

value = 47446176 = 0x2d3f8a0

acqExecInitWfmHdrTemplates

value = 47418848 = 0x2d38de0

autosetInit__Fv

value = 0 = 0x0

TmgrHookup

value = 0 = 0x0

rtlHookup

value = 0 = 0x0

hookupAcqMapper

value = 31028064 = 0x1d97360

autosetMapHookup

value = 31028080 = 0x1d97370

MathMeasMapHookup

value = 31027872 = 0x1d972a0

hookupUtilityMapper

value = 31028056 = 0x1d97358

hookupWfmXmtrMapper

value = 31028056 = 0x1d97358

commHookup__Fv

value = 0 = 0x0

JanusProxyHookup

value = 0 = 0x0

autosetHookup__Fv

value = 28231776 = 0x1aec860 = waitForTransCompleteSem(sem_des*,int*)

taskSpawn "startEmbedded", 50, 0x0008, 100000, startEmbeddedOperation

value = 47160480 = 0x2cf9ca0


Done executing startup script c:\progra~1\tdscsa~1\firmware\dio.vsh

KERNEL:  RUNNING TIME SLICED AT 10 TICKS PER SLICE!

-> done

done

done

done

connectionTask: handshaking with peer...

connectionTask: handshaking with peer - done.

connectionTask: handshaking with peer...

connectionTask: handshaking with peer - done.

connectionTask: handshaking with peer...


If the PC mainboard is not starting up right, I think it is normal for the POWER PC one to get stuck at the point you show.

What I did to get back to work the older PC mainboard (not the newer one for XP) was to place the BIOS jumper on the 2-3 position (the jumper just side-by-side the CMOS battery, which is usually between 1-2) and then put an MS-DOS 6.2 boot disk on drive A. Yes, I got also the Drive B not ready error, but after that, the mainboard booted and I was able to run the corrupt.exe program.

On next reboot, it entered BIOS SETUP and I was able to reset to default values, change the VIDEO BOARD to PCI (so it uses the built-in display) and then exit saving info. I put back the jumper to 1-2 and then I got back the Windows 98 SE functionality.

I hope this helps!

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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2017, 08:12:10 pm »
Hey,
I'm working on fixing one of these too. By any chance do you know what the B: drive is. I've been looking all over for it. I have a feeling that it has to do with the NLX interface because I've tried plugging in different drives, removing them, swapping out the RAM, etc. I'm getting some floppy discs tomorrow so I'm guessing that I can just put a DOS program on there and execute the CMOS file (As I have the same issue with getting into the BIOS). I so happened to just have one, and I got something only once, but then it never booted to the Floppy again, which I thought was weird. One other interesting artifact that I found was that the PowerPC doesn't ever get past a certain point. I have attached the output below:

snip

But It never gets passed the Backplane anchor,
Any ideas?
This program is in the Flash on the Motherboard. The HDD seems like it's broken because it rattles, but when I plug it into a converter I am able to get all of the files off of it (so I made a backup). So I am kind of stuck here. I mean the other possibility is that this is just a motherboard issue, so I have a motherboard on its way to see how that turns out. Anyways if you have any input or thoughts on the problem(s), I'm all ears.

Thanks,

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It won't get past that until the Windows O/S starts to boot.
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2017, 10:36:25 pm »
Cool, I got the unit to boot. I was using DOS 6.22, and a USB Floppy converter using Windows 10. I should have known not to do that even though I was running '95 on a VM. I just grabbed an old computer and boom it worked just as you said. I'm going to try to upgrade this one to XP as well. If I make any progress I'll post.

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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2017, 10:49:17 pm »
Cool, I got the unit to boot. I was using DOS 6.22, and a USB Floppy converter using Windows 10. I should have known not to do that even though I was running '95 on a VM. I just grabbed an old computer and boom it worked just as you said. I'm going to try to upgrade this one to XP as well. If I make any progress I'll post.

Thanks,

Simon

Great news!. Which mainboard do you have?. The Windows XP version runs only on newer ones, the Intel SU810 NLX. They are available on eBay at decent prices. Then you would need the XP System Restoration DVD and an XP Pro licence to activate it. The application software can then be downloaded from Tektronix.

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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2017, 03:25:21 pm »
I ordered one of those boards (Intel SU810 NLX) because I have the MUCH older BL440ZX motherboard. I actually am pretty close to getting XP to upgrade on this setup (So I think). I have like 20 copies of XP Professional (all service packs). I've had a bit of success with SP2 interestingly enough. I made a copy of the other HDD to play with. Interestingly enough this scope didn't fail any of the tests. Maybe I got lucky? But it only loaded the software correctly once. I started sampling with the 80C02 characterizing a few pulses to make sure that the scope wasn't "lying" with its time domain and that all of the pulses "lined up" properly [I read your web page and looked for similar problems]. Too bad I didn't take any pictures because like I said, it won't go back. I think that the original HDD was corrupt so that explains all of the crashes. I've done quite a bit to the setup to make it run more smoothly, but it's still getting there. It might be a bad idea to try to get this current setup to run XP, but I've got until tomorrow or Wednesday until I get the motherboard so I'll just mess with it.

Oh, I forgot to mention, I managed to get a copy of the system restore stuff too for XP.

On another note: Have you heard of Win 7 running on these scopes because I found it interesting somebody was selling software for the scope to run Win 7?

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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2017, 03:29:34 pm »

On another note: Have you heard of Win 7 running on these scopes because I found it interesting somebody was selling software for the scope to run Win 7?

Simon

Doubt that's possible. The i810 chipset only supports 512MB DRAM. The video chipset would be a problem as well.
Where did you see that?
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2017, 03:33:27 pm »
I ordered one of those boards (Intel SU810 NLX) because I have the MUCH older BL440ZX motherboard. I actually am pretty close to getting XP to upgrade on this setup (So I think). I have like 20 copies of XP Professional (all service packs). I've had a bit of success with SP2 interestingly enough. I made a copy of the other HDD to play with. Interestingly enough this scope didn't fail any of the tests. Maybe I got lucky? But it only loaded the software correctly once. I started sampling with the 80C02 characterizing a few pulses to make sure that the scope wasn't "lying" with its time domain and that all of the pulses "lined up" properly [I read your web page and looked for similar problems]. Too bad I didn't take any pictures because like I said, it won't go back. I think that the original HDD was corrupt so that explains all of the crashes. I've done quite a bit to the setup to make it run more smoothly, but it's still getting there. It might be a bad idea to try to get this current setup to run XP, but I've got until tomorrow or Wednesday until I get the motherboard so I'll just mess with it.

Oh, I forgot to mention, I managed to get a copy of the system restore stuff too for XP.

On another note: Have you heard of Win 7 running on these scopes because I found it interesting somebody was selling software for the scope to run Win 7?

Simon

Yes, I saw them on eBay last week... And they sold the same mainboard for it!. But prices were out of sight completely... and now they are gone.

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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2017, 03:40:49 pm »


Yes, I saw them on eBay last week... And they sold the same mainboard for it!. But prices were out of sight completely... and now they are gone.

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Jose

Do you have a link for those, Jose?
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Re: Tektronix CSA-8000 / TDS-8000 repair experiences?
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2017, 03:41:51 pm »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TDS6000-TDS7000-TDS8000-Windows-7-Upgrade-Kit-with-chassis-TDS6000-TDS7000-TDS-/401335497819?hash=item5d7175b45b:g:BSkAAOSwTf9ZThVn Look at that? It seems it works? But I don't know why you would need Win 7 because from what I thought all of the newest updates are for XP.

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2017, 03:45:21 pm »
Oops!. I thought they were sold by same seller, so I had not located it today  ;)

So the mainboard may be different, but they say also 512MB and 800MHz... not too fast for Windows 7, I think. Windows Experience Index is 1.0 according to the picture.

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