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Offline Kedar264

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WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« on: June 01, 2016, 06:49:05 pm »
Hello Everyone

I have WVC 1200 grid tie inverter , one day i suddenly seen this fault where its dc input is shot circuited but luckily all 300 watt solar panels survived which is pretty interesting itself  here is my short video on it
https://youtu.be/7V0OxaaXbA4

i am new into this thing anybody have answer why the mosfets on dc inputs are blown in such way as shown in the video,below are part numbers of this inverter also these images might help.

# Wvc 1200 Parts

# PIC16F877A (MicroController)
http://akizukidenshi.com/download/PIC16F877A.pdf

# IRF3710 (Power Mosfet)
 http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irf3710.pdf

# CQ1308 / U2060G /MURF2060CT (Ultrafast Rectifier)
http://store.alhekma4u.com/content/Diodes/U1660G.pdf

# 30NM60ND (Power Mosfet)
http://tec.icbuy.com/upload/st/stw30nm60nd.pdf

# WVC 1200 Manuel
http://www.ostrovni-elektrarny.cz/docs/WVC1200-eng.pdf
 
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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2016, 02:43:03 am »
luckily all 300 watt solar panels survived which is pretty interesting itself

Short-circuiting solar panels is actually extremely unlikely to damage them. Photovoltaic cells behave much like a constant-current source, thus the current when short-circuited wouldn't be much higher than under normal load.

i am new into this thing anybody have answer why the mosfets on dc inputs are blown in such way as shown in the video,below are part numbers of this inverter also these images might help.

Without carefully analyzing and testing the circuit design and other factors it's impossible to tell. Could be anything from a manufacturing defect in one of the transistors to a poor circuit design, transients, overheating, driver circuit failure, etc.

With switchmode power circuits like this, when one part fails it very often leads to a cascade failure of many other components in the circuit.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2016, 02:51:29 am by TheMG »
 

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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2019, 09:50:28 am »
Thank you for this topic and for your Youtube video which helped me to identify the failure of my WVC-600 inverter  :D

Because overheating, my WVC-600 died 4 days after installation at full sunlight with same symptoms as your WVC-1200 but I have another one correctly working since 3 weeks.

After opening and removing solder, I was surprised to see than the IRF3710 component MOSFET N Trench 100V 57A 4V @ 250uA 23 mΩ @ 28A,10V TO-220 has been replaced in my recent module (bought 2019/08 but built in 2018) by the KIA Semicon Tech KIA3510AP MOSFET N Trench 100V 75A(Tc) 4V @ 250uA 11 mΩ @ 50A,10V TO-220 which seems to be more resistant (even if it burned in my case  ;D) Because low price, I just ordered 12 items on this website https://lcsc.com/product-detail/MOSFET_KIA-Semicon-Tech-KIA3510AP_C176880.html and I have to wait for delivery ...

I hope replacing the 4 mosfet will be enough to repair my WVC600  ???
 

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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 07:37:22 am »
I have exactly the same device and the same problem...just ordered the KIA chips....
Please let me know how it works for you.

I unpluged mine from the electric under load....it didn't like it which is stupid because we often have power failure.
 

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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2019, 07:38:27 am »
Yesterday I received the mosfet and replaced them and now my wvc600 is fully working again 👍
 
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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2019, 08:04:24 am »
great news....now I only need to find mosfets...
 

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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2019, 09:35:58 am »
To temporary repair your WVC, you can buy  IRF3710 which is the first mosfet used, and when you will find the KIA just wait for your WVC be defective again and replace with KIA next time ;)
 

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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2019, 02:20:55 pm »
Hi everybody, I'm picking up the WVC-300 repair topic with a question I currently can't answer myself. In the thread it is about a short on the DC input side. My problem with the Inverter is, that there is a short on the 230VAC side and I identyfied one of the mosfets (see attached Image, mosfets indicated with blue circle) to be faulty. I removed it and there is no short anymore, so there is a good Chance to fix it with a new mosfet. Ok, here is my question, does anybody know the type of mosfet that is used on this inverter. Unfortunately it does not have a type indicated on the housing. I'd very much appreciate any help. Thanks! Robert
 

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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2019, 05:21:57 pm »
Can't see your picture  ???

 

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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2019, 08:26:46 am »
Hi, sorry, I was sick a few days but still I'm interested in fixing the WVC-300.

See attached image of a WVC-1200 with the relevant mosfets indicated with blue circles. This is the mosfets that are also used in the WVC-300, of course it is only 4pcs. there.

Does anybody have a clue what type it is?

Thx, Robert
 

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Re: WVC 1200 Grid Tie Inverter Dc Input Short Circuited (Why?)
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2019, 05:34:24 pm »
Was hunting around a replacement for the KIA Semicon Tech KIA3510AP in case they stop making them, or stock becomes unavailable for some reason as well as to give the inverter a bit of a boost to handle even more power.
I have found a good replacement from ON Semiconductor Part Number   HUF75645P3 , Description   MOSFET N-CH 100V 75A TO-220AB
the spec sheet is almost identical to the KIA replacement with a bit more tolerances to heat. 

Just posting this up here in case someone finds this post and looking to replace the mosfets with something else. If you do, let us know how it worked out! Maybe we can get this to pump out 1500watts or more is we just upgrade the mosfets to handle more power.
 


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