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digger posted this in the aixun thread, worth a separate thread to discuss:

it's been mentioned a little, but there's the new T413 now:

https://aixun.com/product/t413-integrated-smart-soldering-station/

i didn't look at it too closely because i sort of don't care. i have a T420D i'm happy with, and i'm guessing this is just another SMPS model plagued by the 'gnd issue'.

however, one thing caught my eye. there will be a new platform they call "225". not sure if this new "T225" handle is included yet or if it comes later as a separate addon (supported by a fw update), but supposedly it can use 4 different cart platforms: C470, C245, C210, and C115. oddly, it seems they will begin selling their own 'compatible' carts as C250, C150, C080, and C030, respectively, instead of using the aforementioned JBC model numbers. i wonder if they're starting to get paranoid, feeling legal heat somehow from JBC, or if this hints at possible incompatibility with genuine JBC carts down the line.

the T225 handle has some extra gimmicks. it looks like it has an accelerometer built in that gives more standby/wake options. there are also buttons on the actual handle itself for changing temp.







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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2024, 01:00:25 am »
Its sad they keep chasing gimmicks: AI voice control, tap control, accelerometer, handle buttons, etc. When they haven't even been able to iterate and make a solid quality low cost station without bugs (<$150). But I guess features sell. Maybe you can argue accelerometer is a safety feature.

The new tips are interesting: C250 (C475), C150 (C245), C080 (C210), C030 (C115). Allows you to swap various tip sizes without swapping the handle as well.
Video shows them being used in a T225 handle, not clear if they would fit in a T245 handle as well. Also not clear if they are 24V heater cores, or if they vary 12V/24V, and the station would detect them.

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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2024, 01:36:17 pm »
I think having separate threads for the T320 and T413 is a bad idea. The price of the T413 seems to mean its a replacement for the T320, and the two clearly have much in common. A separate thread just seems to fragment things. Just add T413 to the name of the other thread.
 

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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2024, 06:18:49 pm »
Seems like the T225 handle is not widely available yet, most sellers including T245 and T225 support is mentioned as "through a future firmware update".
 

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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2024, 09:12:53 pm »
I think having separate threads for the T320 and T413 is a bad idea. The price of the T413 seems to mean its a replacement for the T320, and the two clearly have much in common. A separate thread just seems to fragment things. Just add T413 to the name of the other thread.

Can just discuss the new tips and handles here if you want.
The problem with aixun is there could be some major issue in T413, or something fixed, and who knows if it will apply to T320 or not. Will T320 support T225 handle?

Seems like the T225 handle is not widely available yet, most sellers including T245 and T225 support is mentioned as "through a future firmware update".

Yeah I don't see any sellers. Blog post here: https://www.aixuntech.com/newsinfo/aixun-t225-selfdeveloped-full-power-wirecontrolled-handle-is-coming/

Can't tell if the handle is using cheap blue plastic or proper rubber.
Though even the real one is hard rubber right?
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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2024, 03:26:19 am »
anyone thinking of getting one? seems like a half baked launch with the 225 platform not even ready yet.

i'm curious if it has the gnd issue like every other aixun station except the T420D.

I think having separate threads for the T320 and T413 is a bad idea. The price of the T413 seems to mean its a replacement for the T320, and the two clearly have much in common. A separate thread just seems to fragment things. Just add T413 to the name of the other thread.

that's funny. i think separate threads is better.
 

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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2024, 04:45:41 am »
The problem with the Aixun T413 is that it is not compatible with the original JBC handles, I had contacted AiXun via the AiXun Tech page on Facebook and this is what they replied to me:

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T413 is equipped with a self-designed temperature control algorithm and intelligent software, so the traditional handles of some brands are not able to adapt to our system to enjoy more user-friendly functions.


In addition, a user who has the T413 told me that the station did not recognize the original JBC tips, it was necessary to heat the tips first to make them recognized.

not working with genuine carts is a significant and unwelcome departure
 
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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2024, 09:46:35 am »

not working with genuine carts is a significant and unwelcome departure

Yes, the fact that it is not compatible with the original JBC handles is something I don't like either.

This is the original comment from the user who replied to me was this :

it is not good so far. The original JBC cartridges are not able to start the station unless I manually heat them before turning on the station. Then the resistance becomes high enough for the station to recognize and start the trunk and handle. Once started, it works really well... it is however very frustrating, and Aixun is not very open to promising a firmware to help this problem...

A post on the AiXun Tech page lists the bugs they have fixed :

2024.10.12 T413 Soldering Station V1.02 Released]
1.Optimized temperature control
2.Fixed problems related with standby
3.Fixed some known issues
 

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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2024, 11:42:38 am »
There is a customer review with some picture on this Aliexpress shop:
2413449-0

The price on AiXun Official Store is just crazy high! For UE, it's 270€ + 290€ for shipping fees. There are less and less vendors on Ali and the price is growing. It's as if very few units have been produced so far.
Furthermore, the transformer makes the device much heavier, and shipping costs are considerably higher than for the T320.

EDIT: I don't know why pictures are so big and not rendered as expandable thumbnail as chosen in the text editor. If someone knows how to correct this...
« Last Edit: October 25, 2024, 11:52:14 am by Frtech »
 
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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2024, 10:19:57 am »
Any more updates on T413 status regarding availability, price, and especially regarding compatibility with genuine JBC 245 handle/connector/pins?  If Aixun manages to deliver the T413 with solid reliability plus real JBC 245 compatibility plus the other features they are claiming with a decent price they would have a very attractive product. 

Video and the comments after the video are interesting:
https://youtu.be/GyH_xFxPApI?feature=shared
« Last Edit: November 29, 2024, 11:04:44 am by Electro Fan »
 

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Re: Aixun T413 200W Smart Soldering Station Compatible with T245/T225 handle
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2024, 11:50:32 am »
Hi, does anyone know if the T413 has any issue with voltage leaks? I wanted to get the T420 but they told me the single handle version is discontinued.
EDIT: they told me it doesn't.

Regarding the question above, Aixun confirmed it's not compatible with JBC cartridges, though it shouldn't be a problem for me since I should be fine with Aixun tips (I'd be curious to see a side by side comparison between JBC and Aixun tips).

Thanks!
« Last Edit: December 13, 2024, 12:30:14 pm by Sheldor »
 


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