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Offline neslekkim

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #125 on: December 09, 2015, 07:11:52 am »
If you're using them often on a bench, you can use trays or make your own (i.e. one slot per blade routed in plastic or wood).

Yes, tray would be nice, I should had drawers so I could arrange some tools, I guess they will go in an coffee mug soon though :)


On a side note, there's a 1/4" square drive adapter blade for using sockets (Wiha 7803). If you already have 1/4"dr. sockets, you can do away with the nut driver blades (return them for a refund). Using it with deep sockets fit shafts better too.  ;) This was so common here in the US, they stopped selling it here (I got lucky and found one of the last ones left here  >:D). Could put ~ 65EUR back in your pocket.  8)

The 7802 Bit Adapter might be of interest as well (allows you to use standard, less expensive 1" or 2.5" long 1/4" hex bits, such as security profiles for example).

Yes, I was thinking about getting those as well, reason I didn't now, is that I don't have good socketsets, I haven some very old cheap ones, and those have kinda thick material, so I was looking for some that have thinner material, and doesn't collide with things around, like screwing the nuts on dsub connectors, and so on.
Same with the bit driver, I have one good (although cheap, but have been with me since '91 or something), but I couldn't use it in deep holes for unscreewing torx (was fighting my washingmachine), so instead of buying separate torx screwdrivers I bought this so I know I can reach deep ones as well.


The system4 was lot smaller than I expected, will be interresting to see how well these holds up to some abuse.
FWIW, I've had mine a few years, and they're holding up well.  :-+ The colored paint does wear off (rather easily in fact), but that's not a big deal IMHO. And you can repaint with small bottles of model paint or nail polish if you wish (it does help hold screws IME).

Ah good, have destroyed a couple of those cheaper "precisions" kit, that sells for $5-$10, this one looks way better, and hope the material is strong.
Didn't check if these are magnetic yet, but that's an easy fix.
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #126 on: December 09, 2015, 08:14:04 am »
Yes, tray would be nice, I should had drawers so I could arrange some tools, I guess they will go in an coffee mug soon though :)
Some time back, I saw a post by robrenz where he used some inexpensive microwave bacon trays for this purpose, and the idea has stuck with me (perfect for ~50mm high pencil drawers). Not large, so they'd fit inside a cigar box for example if need be.

There's also a site called Garage Journal where members have made their own by routing grooves in plastic cutting boards or wood. You could also use a magnetic strip if you're not working with anything sensitive, and would aid in holding screws as a side-benefit.  :P

Yes, I was thinking about getting those as well, reason I didn't now, is that I don't have good socket sets, I haven some very old cheap ones, and those have kinda thick material, so I was looking for some that have thinner material, and doesn't collide with things around, like screwing the nuts on dsub connectors, and so on.
Same with the bit driver, I have one good (although cheap, but have been with me since '91 or something), but I couldn't use it in deep holes for unscreewing torx (was fighting my washingmachine), so instead of buying separate torx screwdrivers I bought this so I know I can reach deep ones as well.
FWIW, my 1/4" stuff is Craftsman (same as Armstrong), and they'll clear a D-sub shell. But there's plenty of other brands and COO's that are well made, and thin enough they should do for electronics work. One Taiwanese brand I can recommend is King Tony Pro (KT Pro); it's a professional brand that shouldn't break the bank (just not sure if it's available in your market). I'd have thought Facom and Beta would be reasonable in the EU market, but then I checked Amazon.de for pricing...  :palm: (Hazet and Gedore about caused my eyes to pop out of my head).

Ah good, have destroyed a couple of those cheaper "precisions" kit, that sells for $5-$10, this one looks way better, and hope the material is strong.
Didn't check if these are magnetic yet, but that's an easy fix.
I've not twisted a blade yet (they're hardened CVM), unlike some 1" bits.

As per the bit holder blade, it's magnetic.  :-+
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #127 on: December 09, 2015, 05:41:12 pm »
I just bought this Wiha #26190 (with free bonus pliers) set last week. I already had enough other stuff in the cart to qualify for the free shipping, so it was less than $20. I hope they turn out to be decent quality. I've been using one of those cheap sets that come in a plastic box for under $5.

http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-26190-Phillips-Screwdriver-Professional/dp/B00018AO0W/
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #128 on: December 09, 2015, 08:31:59 pm »
I just bought this Wiha #26190 (with free bonus pliers) set last week. I already had enough other stuff in the cart to qualify for the free shipping, so it was less than $20. I hope they turn out to be decent quality. I've been using one of those cheap sets that come in a plastic box for under $5.

http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-26190-Phillips-Screwdriver-Professional/dp/B00018AO0W/
I don't think you'll be disappointed (I've the same set).  ;)  ;D One heck of a bargain as well.  :-+

If it matters to you, the screwdrivers are made in Germany, and the pliers in Vietnam, and all of it is well made. Just oil and work the plier joint until it moves freely, as mine were little tight out of the package (= zero slop in the joint  :-+).
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #129 on: December 10, 2015, 09:26:21 am »
I made my own stand for all my WIHA tools.
It is 20mm thick plastic and I just drilled the right size holes, for perfectly fitting the screw drivers
This way, they are always at the same spot and easily to be found, especially the small torx drivers


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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #130 on: December 10, 2015, 10:03:39 am »
I just bought this Wiha #26190 (with free bonus pliers) set last week. I already had enough other stuff in the cart to qualify for the free shipping, so it was less than $20. I hope they turn out to be decent quality. I've been using one of those cheap sets that come in a plastic box for under $5.

http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-26190-Phillips-Screwdriver-Professional/dp/B00018AO0W/

Comments hint there are no pliers. Is image wrong?
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #131 on: December 10, 2015, 02:16:07 pm »
I made my own stand for all my WIHA tools.
It is 20mm thick plastic and I just drilled the right size holes, for perfectly fitting the screw drivers
This way, they are always at the same spot and easily to be found, especially the small torx drivers

How often do you need to lift out everyone to find the one you need?, I see nutdrivers and hex are easier since you can see markings on top, or size on head, but for philips/pozi/flat?
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #132 on: December 10, 2015, 03:21:26 pm »
Comments hint there are no pliers. Is image wrong?

I saw those comments. I made sure the description on my order included the "free bonus" part, and I did get the pliers with my set.

 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #133 on: November 01, 2016, 05:51:37 pm »
Bumping this old thread! So Dave, what did you end up going with?
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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #134 on: November 01, 2016, 06:24:14 pm »
Another vote for PB Swiss. They are tool porn.
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #135 on: November 01, 2016, 10:27:18 pm »
Bumping this old thread! So Dave, what did you end up going with?
So old links do not work anymore

I wonder if they have Harbor Freight down under ? They sell um.   
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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #136 on: November 02, 2016, 05:39:20 am »
BTW, great stand for the Wiha precision set. They have a 5x5 and a 10x5. They also work for (some) other brands.
https://www.kctoolco.com/kc-tool-aluminum-bench-top-stand-for-precision-tools-25-holes-tumbled-finish/

Full Wiha set in all its glory (it's mine  ;D ):
https://germantoolblog.com/2016/01/08/the-best-precision-screwdriver-stand/

 
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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #137 on: November 02, 2016, 06:26:47 am »
Beautifull set  :-+ ,  but where are the pozidrivs?  >:D  ;)
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #138 on: November 02, 2016, 08:55:55 am »
Beautifull set  :-+ ,  but where are the pozidrivs?  >:D  ;)
Why should we throw good money away on those useless things?  :o  :-DD Seriously though, we don't see much of them in the US. In fact, I run into Tri-Wings more often than PZ.
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #139 on: November 02, 2016, 04:08:04 pm »
Beautifull set  :-+ ,  but where are the pozidrivs?  >:D  ;)

The 2 pozidrivs (#0, #1) are hiding somewhere in the back. I did purchase them separately, but I can't say I have used them  ;D
If you look carefully, there is also the chip lifter (black cap), all the way in the back to the right.
Also in the middle back, red body, black cap the 1/4in bit holder (same as 1/4in nut holder but with magnet).

More useless that the pozidrivs yet is the column of 6 pentalobes, 4 of which are in use by Apple, the others being invented sizes with no matching screw in existence AFAIK. I have used the iPhone one.
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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #140 on: November 02, 2016, 08:14:28 pm »
Which would be generally more useful? Small handle ball end hex drivers or larger 'plus' size? Looking for a 1.5/2/2.5/3/4mm set

 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #141 on: November 02, 2016, 09:56:55 pm »
More useless that the pozidrivs yet is the column of 6 pentalobes, 4 of which are in use by Apple, the others being invented sizes with no matching screw in existence AFAIK. I have used the iPhone one.
Never even heard about those  :o
 

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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #142 on: November 03, 2016, 03:43:00 am »
BTW, great stand for the Wiha precision set. They have a 5x5 and a 10x5. They also work for (some) other brands.
https://www.kctoolco.com/kc-tool-aluminum-bench-top-stand-for-precision-tools-25-holes-tumbled-finish/

Full Wiha set in all its glory (it's mine  ;D ):
https://germantoolblog.com/2016/01/08/the-best-precision-screwdriver-stand/



I have a similar set of Wiha PicoFinish drivers for which I made a nice stepped wooden holder for.  I made 7 levels, each holding 8 drivers.   I laugh at myself because the  drivers I use consistently are 2 sizes of phillips and 2 sizes of flat screwdrivers.  I really only needed to make a holder for 4 drivers!  I suppose I'll eventually use some of the others.
 
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Re: Best precision screwdriver set?
« Reply #143 on: November 03, 2016, 05:15:21 am »
Which would be generally more useful? Small handle ball end hex drivers or larger 'plus' size? Looking for a 1.5/2/2.5/3/4mm set

Depends what you need to do. Beyond the Wiha set linked above, I also have a few Wera hex drivers (0.05, 1/16, 1.5 in micro and the big 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0).
I really like the handle of the Wera drivers, big and micro. The micro drivers are similar to the Wiha Picofinish.

The big difference between the micro and the big drivers is how much torque you can apply. The Wiha or Wera micro are very nice to screw/unscrew small metal screws in metal holes or shallow plastic holes (laptop, phones...). They are made so that you can press on the top of the handle while quickly rotate the driver with the fingers. The variable diameter along the handle allows you to tune for speed or (some) torque. So they work well for speedy screwing/unscrewing at low torque and a safe lock due to the downward pressure on the top.

The big drivers are meant to be used with the whole wrist and the tops don't rotate. Basically for much higher torque applications like screws into deep plastic.

In my case, I use the Wiha set for most electronics need (appliances, laptops, phones...).
I use the Wera big drivers (and wish the 1.5 hex was available in big driver) for RC Cars. These tend to have long screws deep into untapped plastic holes and require substantial torque. The micro drivers are basically unusable in that application.

Note that I find that the handle and tips of the Wera drivers to be superior to the Wiha micro, but the Wiha have much more variety available (especially if you're need SAE sizes) and still work very well.

As far as ball hex vs. straight, I like the straight hex for most applications as they are more stable, but the ball hex are more versatile.
For the big Wera drivers in particular, the straight hex have a slightly pointy "Hex-Plus" shape  that I find works extremely well in high-torque applications to prevent slipping and rounding of the screw heads. It is an acquired taste (often you have to reverse the driver pretty hard to disengage it from the screw). It doesn't look like the ball heads have it.
http://www-us.wera.de/hex-plus0.html
 
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