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Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« on: July 03, 2022, 05:13:02 pm »
I just picked up a Faxitron Biovision ( also called OR) system.
AFAIK it worked before the recycler pulled the HD out  >:(
I have the original faxitron install CD though.
New HD, Win7Pro ( 32 bit) installed, faxitron SW installed.
I'm stuck at getting the PCI -EISA bridge ( PLX chip on imager card) driver to work.
See attached in device manager - claims it can't find resources, but won't say what resources it's looking for. nothing shown on "resources" tab.
Device manager also showing "Bioptics PCI card", but not able to start, presumably due to the above issue.

I've tried disabling both LAN interfaces, audio and COM ports, no change.

 
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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2024, 05:38:24 pm »


Someone on eBay has the image of the HD  for the newer working complete ~2009   Bioptics Faxitron !!

   Perhaps ask upfront for the HD image, for your "identical" machine, that has No HD ?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256453156233?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&mkcid=26&ch=osgood&euid=543cc1b5baec465183b03972198adaec&bu=43174413971&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20240326114040&segname=11051


 


 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2024, 06:11:15 pm »
I got an image from elsewhere, but still couldn't get it going - think there was a hardware issue
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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2024, 02:45:08 pm »

hi Mike,

My BiOptics Bio Vision Faxitron unit is ~ year 2009 to 2011 having the Win7 cpu installed at the Bottom of the unit.
It came without a HD & No system.

Initially, it would Not power up due to the built-in Tripp-Lite battery backup unit failure ( dead batteries ):
Opened it up and disconnected the two (2) Tripp-Lite units:
a) 12V Battery pack ( on left ) BP12V54
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b) HC350 RK power supply having three (3) Comm conncetions ( USB1, COMM1 black & COMM2 gray ).
Of These three signal cables: the USB goes to the CPU, the two Cat-5 cables go upwards; perhaps to the LCD screen for kV indication, etc, and possibly the 2nd Cat-5 cable to a thermistor on the xR tube: just a guess, Not sure yet.
pulled out the three (3) 120 power plugs from this unit  ( going to: CPU, CPU monitor screen, & XR tube closed frame power supply ),
 & plugged these 3  + the 4th plug from the HC350RK into a standard power bar. Instrument then powered on.

Note: must temporarily tape down the two (2) rear cover Interlock micro-switched.

But, I don't have the system image for the HD ( ... Anyone ? )

Beyond dead batteries in the Tripp-Lite BP12v54, there is something wrong with my HC350RK PS.
I will dig into that soon.
Tripp-Lite Website does not have much in the way of useful info on this unit, no schematics.
( HC350RK Schematics ...  Anyone ?? )
Newer version ( perhaps without USB & 2 COMM I/O ) might be: HC350RS or HC350S series; unknown.

 If anyone has the System HD installation image or CD ROM, I would appreciate it ( PM please )

Have not yet dissected more of the unit:
The Xr tube seems to be different than the Faxitron MX20
The detector is a 10cm x 15cm USB O/P

 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2024, 02:54:59 pm »
 
Photos of BiOptics Bio Vision Faxitron
 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2024, 02:55:53 pm »

BiOptics Bio Vison
 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2024, 05:49:01 pm »

  BiOptics Bio Vision Faxitron

Correction:
Detector does Not have a USB O/P; instead two small (coax ? ) cables going to a card in the Win7 cpu box.
 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2024, 09:10:40 pm »

  BiOptics Bio Vision Faxitron

Correction:
Detector does Not have a USB O/P; instead two small (coax ? ) cables going to a card in the Win7 cpu box.
These are fibre/fiber optic connections
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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2024, 08:20:48 pm »
Looking at the dust near the bottom of the card, I'd take the card out, and clean the connectors (both male and female) with isopropyl alcohol, then reseat the card.  Toothbrush or similar is useful with the female side.  I like to do the female/motherboard connector upside down, so that the gunk flows out of the connector, instead of along the surface of the motherboard.  Spray IPA makes that easier, but it does tend to be messy.  PPA eyewear is a must for me.  Final cleaning with air duster.

Also check if the recycler moved the card; not all PCI slots are equal, so it could be a resource clash with other stuff.  In that case, using another slot might make it work.
 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2024, 04:20:41 pm »


No, Not fiber Optic cables.

 Two (2) Belden 1855a mini 59 Video coax cables, 75 Ohm, 6 GHz "Precision Video"
   Labeled: ( P ) & ( G )  >  the unknown PCI card in the Win7 box.

 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2024, 04:38:56 pm »

BiOptics Bio Vision Faxitron  xR system sub-assemblies:
( NB:   have  no HD, no CD Rom: no system software for it. )    
   System SW likely tied to the two MAC addresses in the system Win7 mini-CPU.

Can't find detailed .pdf  Instruction nor User manuals for:

1)  The Oxford Instruments Jupiter 5000   P/N 93089 50um Spot size 50kV xR tube.
2)  The unmarked 10cm x 15cm xR flat panel detector " Model VIS-1015"  NC0615-F226 ( ca. 2015, revised from 2010 )

3) unknown PCI card  for unknown 10cm x 15cm xR FP Det. in Bio Vision Faxitron unit ( 2010, 2015).  
  I/P are two Belden 1855a mini 59 coax cables: 75 Ohm video.( not fiber optic cables ! )

>> .... anyone ?
 
 Faxitron BiOptics Bio Vision  ( ca. 2011 or so ... )  system components:

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Oxford Instrument xRay tube:
Jupiter, DS062 series 5000 , air-cooled
P/N: 93089
Target: W   (Tungsten)
Filament Spot size: 50 um
Filament Voltage ~  2.0V nom.,  Current 1.7A
  data sheet ( 2pgs):
      https://xray.oxinst.com/x-ray-tube-products/x-ray-tube-assembly-radiation-shielded/jupiter-5000-series:
P/N; 93089
Jupiter Pkg. Outline Drawing: 8166Anode current 1.0mA10 to 50 kV

>>  User / Instruction Man.  ??

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xR FP Detector:  ...   Unknown
 Flat Panel xRay Detector: 10cm x 15 cm active area
   Black carbon fiber top.
     physical size: " 8"x10", ~ 1/2" thick;  wired.
-- O/P: flat thin white ribbon cable ~1" wide   to  > small Faxitron PCB > 2 Belden 1855a coax cables  > PCI card in CPU.   Belden 1855a mini 59 coax,  video coax 75 Ohm, 6GHz
( two coax cables,  labeled: G, &  P ; are Not fiber optic cables  )
     https://catalog.belden.com/techdata/EN/1855A_techdata.pdf

--  Power (?) : small white 6-pin connector.

 xR FP  has No Mfr name,  labeled:
 " Model VIS-1015   Rev. B  "
NC0615-F226Date: 07/30/2015 (Revised)( Original 01/12/2010 )

>>  Mfr.  ??    Drivers ???

O/P: flat white fragile thin ribbon cable  > going to a small Faxitron PCB  > two black Belden 6GHz Video cables ( "P" & "G" )   > PCI card in the Win7 Faxitron computer.
Belden cables: 1855a shielded 6Ghz HD-SDI Precision Video Cable


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Win7 CPU

PCI card:  unknown  ??

nb:   Rear of CPU:  small Faxitron PCB J1 black 4-pin connector ( for testing ? )
  adjacent to PCI card slot.  Faxitron # 43805-80309

>> PCI Drivers  ....  anyone  ??

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Open Frame LV  PS:Integrated Power Designs 24V  DC    5A   5V  DC  15A

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Spellman HV  PS    24V DC  >  0 to 50 kV 1.5mA
P/N: X4196Model# MNX 50p75x4196  

75 Watt unit: MNX50P75
   Option: 4196 ??
   2 pg. data sheet:
      https://www.spellmanhv.com/en/high-voltage-power-supplies/MNX
   Instruction & User Guide:
      https://www.spellmanhv.com › - › media › en › Technical-Resources › Manuals › MNXMAN.pdf

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Battery Backup : two (2)  Tripp-Lite heavy modules:

a) Tripp-Lite HC350rkBattery Charger / Inverter PS Series AGTR0829
     https://tripplite.eaton.com/main/search?q=HC350RKhttps://tripplite.eaton.com/350w-medical-grade-power-inverter-remote~HC350SR

b) Tripp-Lite Battery Pack BP12V54https://assets.tripplite.com/product-pdfs/en/bp12v54.pdf
     https://tripplite.eaton.com/?q=BP12V54

HC350rk +BP:  battery backup may not be required,  but  has three (3) Signal cables that go to the front panel & system;COMM1, COMM2 two Cat-5 cables go upwards, to the front panel PCB's.  & a USB cable going to the Win7 CPU.
   -- Could lack of the 3 Signals from the Bt Bk-up COMM1, COMM2 &/or USB  cause a halt of operation ?

 >> Anyone having a CD-Rom for this unit please PM me.

 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2024, 06:30:33 pm »
I picked up one of these a couple of years ago. To be honest I haven’t even powered it up yet but it did come with the Windows 7 Pro install CD and the Faxitron install CD. If this is what you’re after then let me know and I’ll find a CD drive from somewhere and image the CD for you
 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2024, 06:40:07 pm »
I picked up one of these a couple of years ago. To be honest I haven’t even powered it up yet but it did come with the Windows 7 Pro install CD and the Faxitron install CD. If this is what you’re after then let me know and I’ll find a CD drive from somewhere and image the CD for you
Did it come with the hard disk?

For the install CD to be useful You'd also need to make a note of the MAC addersses of the ethernet cards in the PC as the software is nodelocked to these - on the MX20 this can be dealt with using the manual MAC override available in most network card driver, I assume this one is the same.

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No, Not fiber Optic cables.

 Two (2) Belden 1855a mini 59 Video coax cables, 75 Ohm, 6 GHz "Precision Video"
   Labeled: ( P ) & ( G )  >  the unknown PCI card in the Win7 box.
Must be a different version - mine is definitely fibre



 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2024, 06:51:59 pm »
Unfortunately the label on the front says ‘HDD Wiped’, but that hopefully means it was working when they wiped it.

I’ve got a few free days, might be time to have a play with it.

Just checked, mines fibre optic also. 2013 manufacture date and the CD serial number matches the number written all over the chassis under the cover.
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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2024, 02:28:19 am »

Mike,
  Can you take 2 Good complete photos of the front & back of your PCI Fiber card,

     Fill the frame of each photo, so that I can read the IC chip #'s etc. on the complete card including the adapter on the edge connector.

 I want to compare it to the dual coax cable PCI card i have, to examine differences.
Wondering if they simply added the FO connector modules Or did something completely different.

   Yes, must be different date versions of the implementation.
 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2024, 12:37:39 pm »
Fibre interface chips  are CY7B923 and 933, 1231 datecode
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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2024, 05:23:38 pm »

I'm stuck at getting the PCI -EISA bridge ( PLX chip on imager card) driver to work.
See attached in device manager - claims it can't find resources, but won't say what resources it's looking for. nothing shown on "resources" tab.
Device manager also showing "Bioptics PCI card", but not able to start, presumably due to the above issue.


Right.. I've just spent a pretty hit and miss day installing W7 on mine and then trawling the internet for drivers for all the devices that W7 doesn't know about out of the box.

A couple of things are troubling me at the moment...
1) I don't have a PCI-EISA bridge listed in device manager, even after installing the Bioptics card drivers
2) Bioptics card drivers install ok apart from an annoying "This device cannot start (code 10)

The Bioptics card is located on the "Intel Q77 Express Chipset LPC Controller - 1E47" so I guess my next move is to search for a DEV_1E47 driver and see if that brings my missing PCI-EISA bridge to the party?
 

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Re: Faxitron Biovision/Bioptics Win7 (PCI resource issue)
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2024, 04:19:18 am »
I been looking to get an z-ray machine see these pop up all the time.


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