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Hakko RF soldering tweezers - FX-1003 - $240
« on: June 11, 2021, 09:59:13 pm »
Saw this linked on SDGs latest metcal comparison video.
FX-1003 tweezers: https://hakkousa.com/fx-1003-micro-tweezer.html



- $242 with stand
- $155 for just the tweezers
- $73 for tips

Hard to say for sure, but the tweezer design does look better than the FM2023's, which are OK. They've added more adjustability.

It should work with old Metcal stations, at a slightly reduced power (50W vs 40W). Meaning this is the cheapest overall package you could put together.
Only thing is the stand will not sleep automatically, Hakko uses microswitch for this. So you could add in some magnets to drop the temperature a bit.


I posted some price comparison before of hot tweezers, basically there is the junk $50 handles, then the price jumps up:
- JBC AM120 $170 tips $80
- Hakko FM2023 $300 with stand, tips $60
- Pace MT-200 $350, $450 with stand, tips $54

and you can't use some of these on any old station, has to be a mid or high-end version that will run the two heaters.


Tip selection:
- T38-02L1 https://hakkousa.com/t38-02l1-chip-tip-400-c-750-f.html
- T38-02L2 https://hakkousa.com/t38-02l2-chip-tip-400-c-750-f.html
- T38-02K https://hakkousa.com/t38-02k-knife-tip-400-c-750-f.html

According to Hakko, the knife tip is for drag soldering. It won't work so well for picking up components due to the sharp angle.
Based on this, I see 02L1 or 02L2 being the most useful tips for average person (for something like 0603/0805/etc). Then conicals/bents for very small components.

Ordered from handle + 02L2 from tequipment, their prices are even lower if you log in.

« Last Edit: June 15, 2021, 07:17:14 pm by thm_w »
 
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Re: Hakko RF soldering tweezers - FX-1003 - $240
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2021, 05:44:58 pm »
tequipment and hakkousa are the only sellers I could find currently in NA.
tequipment did not actually have them in stock and has given an estimated ship date: 07/22/2021. You only find this out after you order.
hakkousa claims in stock, I should have ordered from them instead, oops.
 

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Re: Hakko RF soldering tweezers - FX-1003 - $240
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2021, 11:00:06 pm »
Tweezers arrived, handle and tips are crazy small. These are definitely targeted at 0402/0603/etc smaller size rework.
Cable is very thin and flexible. Handle is much more comfortable than the FM2023 (shown), although it was never annoying to use.



Start up is slightly faster than the FM2023, as the metcal station is dumping ~70W vs ~45W on the hakko base unit. They are both so fast that it does not matter, <3s and <7s to melt lead solder.
Otherwise power doesn't seem to make as much of a difference as I expected. With tips this small, at most the station is putting ~30-35W into the tips under normal use. So the difference in performance between this and the FM2023 is going to be hard to quantify.

The connector is slightly different to metcal, it has a threaded shell only, no push on ability. The center pin is thicker on hakko, 1.23mm vs 1.16mm metcal.
This makes it impossible to fully plug into an older PS2E-01 station. Although, a simple fix should be a cheap F male to female adapter, or replacing the internal connector.
It will plug in OK to a MX5200 station as is.



Major concern though: mechanical slop on the tips. The left tip is fixed, and doesn't really move at all, only a few degrees inwards. The right tip is the rotating one, it also has ~2mm slop in either vertical direction. Compare this to <0.5mm slop on the FM2023 (due to its design and non-adjustability). I would really prefer no vertical adjustment at all and minimal slop, if I had a choice.

Its currently the cheapest option for a quality tweezer setup, if we consider secondhand base stations..:
- PS2E + FX1003 + tips = 75 + 230 + 68 = $375

Closest is probably the Pace at $640. The PS2E should have enough power (40W) given the small tip size.

But I can't recommend it yet due to the slop issue. I've asked Hakko if this is normal or something that can be adjusted.

« Last Edit: August 11, 2021, 11:04:44 pm by thm_w »
 
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Re: Hakko RF soldering tweezers - FX-1003 - $240
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2021, 05:35:08 pm »
So Hakkos response to tip misalignment is "this is normal for precision tweezers", which I just don't buy. I already took a quick look inside and I can see some of the play is due to a screw + nut clamping system on the hinge. But most appears to be due to adjustment wheel slop, I can feel it just move around too easily. If they can't make that solid, there should be a way to lock it in place with a toggle or even insert a shim. Most people would only need to make this adjustment infrequently.

Anyone else own the Pace or JBC micro/mini/nano adjustable tweezers and can say if there is much side to side play when closed?


off-topic: found this idea to hold braid with tweezers and use that for cleaning, youtu.be/HpttySteY-E?t=277
 

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Re: Hakko RF soldering tweezers - FX-1003 - $240
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2021, 08:20:16 pm »
Looks like Hakko's attempt to account for misalignment is inducing it.

I see a variation of this dynamic all the time in my engineering profession, where efforts to account for some inevitable reality end up exacerbating it.
 

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Re: Hakko RF soldering tweezers - FX-1003 - $240
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2021, 11:04:11 pm »
Disassembly procedure:
- pull rubber cover on the cord side of the tweezer
- unscrew self tapping screw, slide plastic cover back
- unscrew self tapping screw holding the leaf spring in place
- unscrew hinge screw, remove hinge cylinder piece
- tilt/twist tweezers so that 'T' shaped metal width adjustment end can reach large hole to exit tweezer shell

If you do this, make sure you have some quality plastic grease on hand. If the grease is lost, plastic on plastic will not move freely as before, and normal grease is not appropriate.






What I've ended up doing to increase the rigidity is adding a 10mm dia PTFE spacer on the screw side of the hinge where the surfaces are flat. This forces a more parallel path when closing the tweezers.
I can still adjust alignment of the tips but the range is ~10x less than before.




Looks like Hakko's attempt to account for misalignment is inducing it.

I see a variation of this dynamic all the time in my engineering profession, where efforts to account for some inevitable reality end up exacerbating it.

Absolutely.
My question would be if they made it "rigid" and had no adjustment, and you put the smallest tips in, would it ever be misaligned significantly or not? I suspect its not really a problem unless you bend the tip by forcing it at some point. Even then, if we need to align the tips is a ~2mm range necessary with quick adjustment? I would be OK with set screws, but thats not as sleek.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2021, 11:09:05 pm by thm_w »
 
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