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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2019, 07:29:43 pm »
Scope view of the same thing. Got the Scope back working probaly over a year ago now (Random fun fact, HV diodes were to blame)
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« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2019, 07:30:57 pm »
Just for fun, it open & on.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2019, 07:32:10 pm »
Under the LCD. Just as a note not all Huskys have the RAM board like this one does.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2019, 07:34:04 pm »
The original Hunter now works as well as the Hunter 2. The Hunter sets number of screen columns to 39 but the HD61830 requires this to be an even number 2-128, so needed rounding up.
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Also making progress on the original Husky.
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Also great work on getting these running. Please do relese the code & links. I wanted to do such a project but just never got round to it & never quite had the coding skills.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2019, 07:38:34 pm »
I did look at both the clocks, not sure if I have the photos on this laptop, but the original husky runs at 1MHz (Clock cyrystal 2MHz)
Husky Hunter 8MHz (Clock crystal 4MHz)
This is interesting and have asked another owner to verify this.

The original Husky is now emulated fairly well and can enter BASIC to run programs. Still to do are to improve sound and implement RS232. The Husky schematics have been scanned which were essential to determine how ROM/RAM is banked. Schematics for the Hunter may be forthcoming too.

In your Husky Hunter video you show an app from Optimal Software, is this in ROM or something pre-installed in RAM? Did you post the ROMs from this machine?

I'm seeing lots of different ROM versions for these machines so assume they were regularly updated. Currently known ROM versions are:
Husky: HC19JUL, HS19JUL, HC03JUN
Hunter: DEMOS 2.2 9G06h, DEMOS Ver 2.2, DEMOS 2.2 9G+
Hunter 2: DEMOS 2.21 9G08h V4
Hawk: DEMOS 2.21 V1.20, DEMOS 2.21 V1.10
Hunter 16: v3.04, v3.03
Hunter 2/16: v1.0
Hunter 16/80: v4.05

If you have anything other than what's listed it would be greatly appreciated.

The=at is bad ass. you know I am not actualy sure if it is built in. You would have to link to the video for me to know for cirtain.

The ROM could be to do with the fact Husky use to customise the machines for clients. Also they were in use for multiple years from the early 80s up. The original Hunters seem to last up to the mid to late 80s.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2019, 08:27:50 pm »
Also great work on getting these running. Please do relese the code & links. I wanted to do such a project but just never got round to it & never quite had the coding skills.

The original Husky and Hunter are already in the latest MAME 0.213 release. The source is freely available, and the relevant drivers are:
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/drivers/husky.cpp
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/drivers/hunter2.cpp

The main outstanding issue with the Husky is the sound. I even have schematics but the frequency of the sound generator is unknown, any way you could help with that?

The=at is bad ass. you know I am not actualy sure if it is built in. You would have to link to the video for me to know for cirtain.

The ROM could be to do with the fact Husky use to customise the machines for clients. Also they were in use for multiple years from the early 80s up. The original Hunters seem to last up to the mid to late 80s.
Your video that I'm referring to is in the first post of this topic, simply titled Husky Hunter.

I suspect the software was pre-installed in RAM, which would make it difficult to recover.

Could you list the firmware versions of all your working devices to see if you have any that are not already dumped? For the Husky type VER in BASIC, and the Hunter shows the DEMOS version on the main screen.
 

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« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2019, 04:09:02 pm »
Also great work on getting these running. Please do relese the code & links. I wanted to do such a project but just never got round to it & never quite had the coding skills.

The original Husky and Hunter are already in the latest MAME 0.213 release. The source is freely available, and the relevant drivers are:
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/drivers/husky.cpp
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/drivers/hunter2.cpp

The main outstanding issue with the Husky is the sound. I even have schematics but the frequency of the sound generator is unknown, any way you could help with that?

The=at is bad ass. you know I am not actualy sure if it is built in. You would have to link to the video for me to know for cirtain.

The ROM could be to do with the fact Husky use to customise the machines for clients. Also they were in use for multiple years from the early 80s up. The original Hunters seem to last up to the mid to late 80s.
Your video that I'm referring to is in the first post of this topic, simply titled Husky Hunter.

I suspect the software was pre-installed in RAM, which would make it difficult to recover.

Could you list the firmware versions of all your working devices to see if you have any that are not already dumped? For the Husky type VER in BASIC, and the Hunter shows the DEMOS version on the main screen.

That program was stored in RAM, found out when the batterys died & the backup battery died & the program was lost. Don't know where I could find an archived version. Otherwise it is lost forever. If I had known it was in RAM before I would have tryed to archived it.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2019, 05:12:20 pm »
Husky Hunter 2 DEMOS 2.21 9G08h V4
Husky Hunter DEMOS 2.2 9G06h

Don't know about the Halk, that be dead. The other Huskys I have run on MS DOS & I don't have any batterys for the DVW Huskys

Hunter BASIC does not seem to have a VER or VERSION command.

All the commands & shit cn be found here: https://archive.org/details/HuskyHunterManual

Uploaded the manual to the interwebs years ago now.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2019, 05:21:05 pm »
Just saw I had not put the Husky Halk EPROM's up. So here they are. As I do not have a working Halk I do not know a lot about these machines other than they are a Husky Hunter without the rugadised case.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2019, 05:29:17 pm »
Nice thread; first time I stumbled upon it.
Should it be moved to the "Vintage Computing" section, maybe?
 

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« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2019, 06:22:28 pm »
Husky Hunter 2 DEMOS 2.21 9G08h V4
Husky Hunter DEMOS 2.2 9G06h

Hunter BASIC does not seem to have a VER or VERSION command.

All the commands & shit cn be found here: https://archive.org/details/HuskyHunterManual
Already have those Hunter ROMs. The VER command is only available in the Husky.

A better scan of the manual at https://archive.org/details/HuskyHunterManualVO9F1984

Just saw I had not put the Husky Halk EPROM's up. So here they are. As I do not have a working Halk I do not know a lot about these machines other than they are a Husky Hunter without the rugadised case.
Excellent! These are DEMOS 2.21 V1.01, previously only had V1.10 and V1.20.

They are quite different from a Hunter, different CPU for a start, and video circuitry more in common with the Husky.

If you look at the Hawk board, and Hunter 16, you'll notice one of the supposedly RAM chips is actually a ROM with the same pinout as all the other RAM. I strongly suspect this contains the default DOS installation. Any chance of this been dumped? I also have another owner that is looking to dump this too, and is working on an adaptor.
 

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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2019, 07:13:39 pm »
Nice thread; first time I stumbled upon it.
Should it be moved to the "Vintage Computing" section, maybe?

Not sure how you would do that. I don't think the vintage computer thread exsisted when I created this post. Probaly be an Admin job.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2019, 07:21:03 pm »
Husky Hunter 2 DEMOS 2.21 9G08h V4
Husky Hunter DEMOS 2.2 9G06h

Hunter BASIC does not seem to have a VER or VERSION command.

All the commands & shit cn be found here: https://archive.org/details/HuskyHunterManual
Already have those Hunter ROMs. The VER command is only available in the Husky.

A better scan of the manual at https://archive.org/details/HuskyHunterManualVO9F1984

Just saw I had not put the Husky Halk EPROM's up. So here they are. As I do not have a working Halk I do not know a lot about these machines other than they are a Husky Hunter without the rugadised case.
Excellent! These are DEMOS 2.21 V1.01, previously only had V1.10 and V1.20.

They are quite different from a Hunter, different CPU for a start, and video circuitry more in common with the Husky.

If you look at the Hawk board, and Hunter 16, you'll notice one of the supposedly RAM chips is actually a ROM with the same pinout as all the other RAM. I strongly suspect this contains the default DOS installation. Any chance of this been dumped? I also have another owner that is looking to dump this too, and is working on an adaptor.

I will have to crack them open & check that, although if someone elce is working on dumping the SMT chip I will let them do that as I am not really well equiped for SMT soldering.

I do have ROM dumps of the Hunter 16, Hunter 16/80 & FS3 machines. But the from wont let me post those ROMs, stupid file size limits. I really need to get my own websie up & running again.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2019, 07:25:58 pm »
Would you post the scematics please, if that are not already on the Github.

I can see what I can find out about how the sound is generated, but I am more of a hardware guy.
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« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2019, 08:05:38 pm »
Would you post the scematics please, if that are not already on the Github.

I can see what I can find out about how the sound is generated, but I am more of a hardware guy.

Unfortunately they're rather large, the tif for the DVW is 155MB. When they've been processed and shrunk I expect them to be uploaded to archive.org, and will post links when they are.

I do have ROM dumps of the Hunter 16, Hunter 16/80 & FS3 machines. But the from wont let me post those ROMs, stupid file size limits. I really need to get my own websie up & running again.
I'm interested in those too, to compare with what I already have. The Hunter 16 ROMs should only be 128K each so can be attached. I currently have no info on the FS3 so that'll be new to me.
 

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« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2019, 10:52:50 pm »
Good news, the ROMs were stored with other files so just pulled out the ROMs sepratly. I don't have the FS2 ROM or MS DOS dump. Somewhere I imaged the CF cards in the FS3, but i think the files are on my desktop. Not sure they would fit on here anyway. The FS3 MS DOS is on the CF card so you won't get that DOS from the ROM. But there are other things you can look into.

As I am completly obsessed with these machines I am trying to obtain & archive anything to do with them. That is why i want to get my website setup & why I am posting as much as posible here so at least there is some kind of centrail repository for Husky computer info online. Kind of all over the place at the moment. The Husky 16 & 16/80, the MS DOS should be in the ROM images.
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« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2019, 11:17:56 pm »
Good news, the ROMs were stored with other files so just pulled out the ROMs sepratly. I don't have the FS2 ROM or MS DOS dump. Somewhere I imaged the CF cards in the FS3, but i think the files are on my desktop. Not sure they would fit on here anyway. The FS3 MS DOS is on the CF card so you won't get that DOS from the ROM. But there are other things you can look into.

Thanks again for those. The Hunter 16 and 16/80 match what I already have, so just the FS3 to take a look at. Any idea of the spec of the FS3? Which CPU, how much RAM, any other significant IC's, etc.? Any internal photos?
 

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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2019, 08:30:09 pm »
I will crack open one of my FS3's & then upload the pics, for now heres the manual & brochure which should provide some info.
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« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2019, 08:32:00 pm »
I will crack open one of my FS3's & then upload the pics, for now heres the manual & brochure which should provide some info.
No need, it's already been done, see https://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=113714#Post113714
 

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« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2019, 09:37:31 pm »
Ha you found that site to, also to late on the photos, already taken them. So might as well post them. I think that might be where I got some of the ROM's.
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2019, 02:23:17 pm »
Hi, sorry it has been a while but have been renovating house and not had much time online.

I still have the Husky units listed, I left them with my son in the UK to look after, I am in the UK from the end of this week visiting and will check on them to see what state they are in now.
 

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« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2019, 05:47:59 pm »
I have the following:
1 x Husky Hunter in carry case
1 x Husky Hunter 16, no carry case
1 x Husky Helmsman, no carry case
1 x Husky Titan, no carry case
2 x Husky Hawk in carry cases
2 x Husky Hawk, no carry cases
1 x Husky FC486, with charger
I have only 1 charger for the Hawks.
They are all in an unknown state of working since it is some years since I looked at them.
I still have the Husky units listed, I left them with my son in the UK to look after, I am in the UK from the end of this week visiting and will check on them to see what state they are in now.
Can you let us know what you are expecting for them, or free to a good home?

I'd like to emulate those that I haven't previously mentioned, specifically the Titan and Helmsman, as there are literally no details of these on the web. I don't have the equipment to do anything with the Husky's so would hope that whoever takes them is able to document them and dump their ROMs to share with the community. Even the Hunter's and Hawk's may have undumped ROM revisions of interest.
 

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« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2019, 09:33:59 pm »
Hi, I wasn't expecting anything for them, maybe just the postage costs (which could be considerable for these heavy items :)).

The Helmsman was a Hunter 2 with a bigger screen, the 16x80 one used on the Hunter 1680 and was basically a terminal emulator, VT100, etc. I can't remember much about the Titan except it had an updated case and 'smarty' keyboard. I shall check the versions when I can, not sure I still have equipment to read the eproms/flash devices but if I can I will.
 
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Re: Husky Hunter Computers (Rare & Obscure Computers)
« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2019, 08:53:51 pm »
I would also be intrested in the huskys. Maybe split them 50/50 with the two of us.
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« Reply #74 on: December 11, 2019, 12:04:35 pm »
I shall check the versions when I can, not sure I still have equipment to read the eproms/flash devices but if I can I will.
Any news on this? Do you also have manuals for any of them, especially Hawk, Titan, and Helmsman?

I would also be intrested in the huskys. Maybe split them 50/50 with the two of us.
If you're willing to document them with quality photos and dump their ROMs then you can take them all. I am not a collector of hardware (just my original BBC Micro), just want to see them documented and preserved through emulation in MAME.
 


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