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Offline knotlogic

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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2024, 01:44:16 pm »
new firmware available :

https://forum.minidso.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5652&extra=page%3D1

Looking at that link, they mention

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- Add support for SA80/SA115/SA210/SA245 soldering station adapters

It looks like some sort of plug in module that replaces the hotplate section with an adapter to a soldering iron.  And from the name I'm wondering if it'll be JBC compatible.  I haven't been able to find any details about them though.
 

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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2024, 10:59:22 pm »
It looks like some sort of plug in module that replaces the hotplate section with an adapter to a soldering iron.  And from the name I'm wondering if it'll be JBC compatible.  I haven't been able to find any details about them though.

Can't find any information either. Quite intriguing !
 

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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2024, 08:55:39 am »
 
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2024, 10:58:43 am »
Some information is available:

Indeed, good find ! They are probably about to release it.

Weird how lower power ones (115 & 210) are heating faster.
 

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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2024, 10:43:39 pm »
Weird product.

Indeed, good find ! They are probably about to release it.

Weird how lower power ones (115 & 210) are heating faster.

Its fairly normal as the thermal mass of the 115 and 210 are tiny. Can be an advantage when you want the control loop to respond quicker, though obviously the total power is less so it will only take you so far.
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2024, 03:58:34 am »
I wonder if the MHP50 has enough power to work as a solder bath/pot. That would be a nice attachment if it existed!

I need to purchase a small solder bath/pot, and I'm going to use it so rarely that I don't want to spend a lot, but, at the same time, I don't want to buy something bottom-end that might not be safe.
 

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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2024, 02:25:45 am »
If you use the reflow profile feature, I recommend NOT upgrading to the 2.00 firmware. While the temperature ranges have been relaxed, the reflow settings don't actually appear to work. The rise and keep times are not respected and regardless of what I set WeldTemp to, the maximum temperature always seems to go to 230 C.

On top of that, downgrading to 1.01 doesn't currently seem possible. You can install it, but the UI is messed up.

Avoid for now...
 

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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2024, 05:06:57 am »
If you use the reflow profile feature, I recommend NOT upgrading to the 2.00 firmware. While the temperature ranges have been relaxed, the reflow settings don't actually appear to work. The rise and keep times are not respected and regardless of what I set WeldTemp to, the maximum temperature always seems to go to 230 C.

On top of that, downgrading to 1.01 doesn't currently seem possible. You can install it, but the UI is messed up.

Ouch ? I was about to do the update...  :phew:

Anyone else with such an experience ?
 

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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2024, 06:38:50 pm »
On top of that, downgrading to 1.01 doesn't currently seem possible. You can install it, but the UI is messed up.

Update: Miniware have added the UI file to their 1.01 firmware download, so it's now possible to downgrade back to 1.01. :phew:

 
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #59 on: December 15, 2024, 09:26:58 pm »
I was about to go to 2.0 as well. I'm very impressed with this little thing. It will be very handy.
 
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2024, 05:32:55 pm »
BE CAREFUL!

Tried to go back to firmware 1.01 but messed up...
In DFU mode, I tried to delete the 2.0 files...  |O

BIG MISTAKE!

LINUX MINT:
The MHP50 does work, shows 1.01 on the display but DFU mode does not work anymore!!
Also I cannot change some values anymore in the menu's, I need to edit the config.txt file in USB mode

I can enter DFU mode, MHP50 does show up in the filemanager but I get an error "Could not display contents of "MHP50_DFU": error when getting information for file "/media/user/MHP50_DFU/.trash-1000": input/output error

This was on LINUX.

In Windows 10, I CAN enter the MHP50_DFU directory with these contents:


Deleting the .trash-1000 directory is not possible: not found error.
Dare not to mess with it any further..

Oh well, just another day... :'(


 
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2024, 08:57:41 am »
SOLVED!

I was amazed that I got a reply from Morningtools within 12 hours. :-+

My STUPID mistake could be simply solved.


Email from Morningtools:

Dear customer,

We are very sorry there is have problem with the reflow in V2.0 firmware, we are making modifications and will update the firmware later.

Please try this to make MHP50 working, if you want to back to V1.0 firmware is the same process:
1. Press and hold the A button of MHP50, connect the computer, and enter DFU mode
2. Format the DFU disk to FAT format
3. Disconnect the USB connection
4. Press and hold the A button of MHP50, connect the computer again, and enter DFU mode
5. Copy the 2.0 APP firmware to the DFU disk
6. The computer will refresh and see the RDY file
7. Disconnect the USB connection
8. Press and hold the A button of MHP50, connect the computer for the third time, and enter DFU mode
9. Copy the 2.0 UI file to the DFU disk
10. The computer will refresh and see the RDY file
11. Disconnect and complete the upgrade.

If it not help please provide the video to us to shows the problems, thank you.

Best regards,

Guangzhou Chenxi Trading Co.,Ltd.

www.morningtools.com

Address: R.3401, Holdround Plaza, 2#, Danan Road, Yuexiu District, Guangzhou
« Last Edit: December 18, 2024, 11:52:07 am by wwjd1924 »
 
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2024, 09:35:27 am »
Email from Morningtools:

Great to have a copy in the forum, thanks !
 
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2024, 09:46:24 am »
Hello,

PCBWay has the MHP50 adapters in stock.

I believe the SA80 adapter comes with the handle, a tip and the I-stand.

There are 5 tips listed for ther SA80

https://www.pcbway.com/project/gifts_detail/MHP50_Mini_Soldering_Station_Adapter_SA80_6ea1e87c.html


Edit:
I have now found it at Aliexpress

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808012159353.html
« Last Edit: December 30, 2024, 04:24:46 am by davbere »
 
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2025, 10:15:17 pm »
The reflow profile is limited by minimal values in time and temperature.
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2025, 04:04:11 pm »
There is a firmware update to V2.01
Did they fix the problem?
 

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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2025, 06:54:09 pm »
There is a firmware update to V2.01
Did they fix the problem?

Did some testing yesterday. They have fixed it, kind of. Setting the reflow parameters appears to work now, both through the UI and through CONFIG.TXT, and the profile is followed pretty closely.

The remaining problem is with the WeldTime parameter (time at peak temperature). The permitted range for this is now 60s to 300s (used to be 30s to 180s in v1.0). No idea why they would raise this when lowering it was part of the feature request to make the reflow profile actually usable. I'll follow up on their forum again. They do seem to respond... eventually... so maybe v2.02 in a couple of months would fix it?

These are the ranges as they stand in v2.01:

RiseTemp 80 - 170C
RiseTime 60 - 300s
KeepTemp 110 - 170C
KeepTime 60 - 300s
WeldTemp 150 - 260C
WeldTime 60 - 300s

And a funny tidbit: My HW 0.70 unit now reports HW 1.00 when loaded with firmware 2.0x. I guess they got tired of people asking them about that.:-DD
 
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Re: Miniware MHP50
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2025, 04:17:16 pm »
And a funny tidbit: My HW 0.70 unit now reports HW 1.00 when loaded with firmware 2.0x. I guess they got tired of people asking them about that.:-DD

Lol !

Thanks for all those information.
 


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