New Beeprog 2 disappointment

[anman]

You barely can find ANY used programmer from ANY manufacturer, so lack of them in second hand market is not an indicator of their awesomeness.

I fully support. Universal programmers simply do not exist.
  The ability to add settings of the user chip datasheet - substantial assistance.

[razberik]

Um, that is a bit broad brush, mate. Tad unfair, don't ya think?

Yes. It is. Because the worst enemy of Slovak is another Slovak.

[wraper]

Um, that is a bit broad brush, mate. Tad unfair, don't ya think?

Yes. It is. Because the worst enemy of Slovak is another Slovak.

In Latvia it's said a little bit different. The best dish for Latvian is another Latvian  .

[figo]

You can get, for example, Xeltek SuperPro 6100 if going to blow the money elnec costs.
http://www.xeltek.com/resources/competitor-comparison/elnec-beeprog-xeltek-superpro-comparison/

On the other hand, SuperPro6100 models are equipped with 144 pins. There is only one QFP64 or QFP100 socket adapter needed. Each adapter is fully universal for all IC devices of the same package type. So, one Xeltek QFP64 adapter does the job of 70+ Elnec QFP64 adapters (or one adapter plus 70+ pin-conversion PCBs)!

I confess I did not know the brand, but this programmer costs $ 1600 + customs fee. And also have hundreds of special adapters, which you have to buy separately ...

Or elnec costs about 850 € + VAT. You do not have to pay customs fees, as it is done in the European Union.

[sotos]

You can get, for example, Xeltek SuperPro 6100 if going to blow the money elnec costs.
http://www.xeltek.com/resources/competitor-comparison/elnec-beeprog-xeltek-superpro-comparison/

On the other hand, SuperPro6100 models are equipped with 144 pins. There is only one QFP64 or QFP100 socket adapter needed. Each adapter is fully universal for all IC devices of the same package type. So, one Xeltek QFP64 adapter does the job of 70+ Elnec QFP64 adapters (or one adapter plus 70+ pin-conversion PCBs)!

I confess I did not know the brand, but this programmer costs $ 1600 + customs fee. And also have hundreds of special adapters, which you have to buy separately ...

Or elnec costs about 850 € + VAT. You do not have to pay customs fees, as it is done in the European Union.

Which model? Because, I’m searching for one and as I see the BeeProg2 costs 1000 euro plus vat.

[figo]

You can get, for example, Xeltek SuperPro 6100 if going to blow the money elnec costs.
http://www.xeltek.com/resources/competitor-comparison/elnec-beeprog-xeltek-superpro-comparison/

On the other hand, SuperPro6100 models are equipped with 144 pins. There is only one QFP64 or QFP100 socket adapter needed. Each adapter is fully universal for all IC devices of the same package type. So, one Xeltek QFP64 adapter does the job of 70+ Elnec QFP64 adapters (or one adapter plus 70+ pin-conversion PCBs)!

beeprog 2C

I confess I did not know the brand, but this programmer costs $ 1600 + customs fee. And also have hundreds of special adapters, which you have to buy separately ...

Or elnec costs about 850 € + VAT. You do not have to pay customs fees, as it is done in the European Union.

Which model? Because, I’m searching for one and as I see the BeeProg2 costs 1000 euro plus vat.

[wraper]

Or elnec costs about 850 € + VAT. You do not have to pay customs fees, as it is done in the European Union.

I very much doubt that there is a place where beeprog 2 costs EUR 850 + VAT, EUR 999 + VAT on elnec website. Then add EUR 150 + VAT for that single proprietary adapter (Xeltek will work just fine with cheap universal adapter). If you need to program more than one kind of IC, buying a few proprietary adapters will in instant rise the price way higher than Xeltec costs, and even way more than beeprog2 costs by itself.
EDID: ok, I see you mean beprog2c

[wraper]

BTW superpro 6100 is sold for around $800-900 on aliexpress.

[plesa]

BTW superpro 6100 is sold for around $800-900 on aliexpress.

Are you sure they are genuine and not fakes.

[wraper]

BTW superpro 6100 is sold for around $800-900 on aliexpress.

Are you sure they are genuine and not fakes.

I pretty sure they are genuine, but you won't get warranty unless Chinese seller offers it (as they are meant for chinese market). Also Aliexpress buyer protection is pretty good.

[figo]

BTW superpro 6100 is sold for around $800-900 on aliexpress.

Are you sure they are genuine and not fakes.

I pretty sure they are genuine, but you won't get warranty unless Chinese seller offers it (as they are meant for chinese market). Also Aliexpress buyer protection is pretty good.

If it's like Chinese beeprog it sucks ...

The Chinese beeprog also costs half the price, but it sucks if you try to upgrade online it burns!
You have a good weight for paper !!!

Then you have the problem of customs, if you have to pay the import taxes, in the Portuguese case are more 200/300 €.

[wraper]

If it's like Chinese beeprog it sucks ...

AFAIK chinese beeprog are clones. Also they should be much easier to clone than 6100. Here is 6100 at $180 lower price than directly from xeltek from the US (but no free shipping). http://www.tequipment.net/Xeltek/SuperPro-6100/Programmers-and-IC-Testers/
While searching in Russian, I cannot find any mentioning of xeltek clones. But there are plenty about beeprog and how to restore them.

[anman]

If in front of me now was the acquisition task Nand programmer, I would pay attention to RT809H - Nand and eMMC specialized programming.

[tabajaralabs]

luckily for me, i have found an old Elnec document with a big list of adapters pinouts, and was able to program old Xilinx XC9500 series.

Mind sharing this list? 

[dorkshoei]

Elnec  is listing Dataman and BK Precision, Chipmaster  etc ...as ODM  meaning they are original Elnec rebranded products.
...
I have taken an identical plcc84 zif adapter from a Chipmaster 6000xp,   removed the top section and hand made an bottom section, luckily for me, i have found an old Elnec document with a big list of adapters pinouts, and was able to program old Xilinx XC9500 series.

@coromonadalix  I sent you a PM.  Like @tabajaralabs I am interested in getting a copy of that document if you are so willing.  Thanks!

[coromonadalix]

sadly for now, i can put my finger on it

and now  some beeprog models and software are in EOL