Pace ADS200 soldering station

[Electro Fan]

Edit:  Any idea about where to get the tool shown in the [video] link at 1:53 - 159?  Looks like maybe a specialized tip change tool, kind of like a specialized pliers.


 
The tool in the video looks different than the 1100-0206-P1 Pace Tip Tool.
https://paceworldwide.com/tip-tool
 
Anyone have experience with both the tool in the video and the 1100-0206?  Any reason to think one is better than the other in terms of safely exchanging hot cartridges and in terms of protecting the cartridges?
 
Thx
 

[Hydrawerk]

Any idea about where to get the tool shown in the link?

It looks like a Tip Tool for me.
https://paceworldwide.com/tip-tool

[thm_w]

I called Pace.  Person I spoke with said the Plus has a higher duty cycle.  He didn’t have a spec on what the previous duty cycle was or what the new duty cycle is on the Plus - just “higher”.  He said the Plus is intended to deliver more power but he wasn’t up for quoting any wattage specs.  He said he didn’t think it was likely for non-Plus units to be upgradeable to Plus.  Net, net:  higher duty cycle but not much specific.

10% supposedly, according to their marketing.

The tip tool and pad should come with the station, as shown in the quick start manual: https://paceworldwide.com/sites/default/files/2019-07/ADS200_QuickStart_Manual_5.5x8.5_03.pdf

I prefer just using a silicone pad, as explained in the other thread, but depends on the person.

[bdunham7]

Anyone have experience with both the tool in the video and the 1100-0206?  Any reason to think one is better than the other in terms of safely exchanging hot cartridges and in terms of protecting the cartridges?

They're one and the same and very easy to use.  IDK how it could be any easier.  You just have to have the tab aligned with the slot (rotationally) when you insert the new tip and since that will be cold, you need not use the tool.  I do anyway, it's just that simple.

[bdunham7]

10% supposedly, according to their marketing.

That would be quite doable without any hardware changes if they did it by simply reducing the number of TC reads when the tip temp was signicantly below the target.  That change should be able to be incorporated into the non-Plus versions with just a firmware change.  However, if they have decided to not do that and instead reduce the TC read time, it's possible that some HW changes were needed to accomplish that and we're all just out of luck. 

[Electro Fan]

Anyone have experience with both the tool in the video and the 1100-0206?  Any reason to think one is better than the other in terms of safely exchanging hot cartridges and in terms of protecting the cartridges?

They're one and the same…

Really? The tool in the video at 1:53-1:59 looks different than the 1100-0206-P1.  Yes/no?  Thx

[bdunham7]

Really? The tool in the video at 1:53-1:59 looks different than the 1100-0206-P1.  Yes/no?  Thx

[Electro Fan]

bdunham7, Thanks.  I see it now.

The JBC slotted holder / cartridge change out design that Hakko somewhat adopted has looked attractive but maybe the Pace tool and process are as good / better / good enough? 

Setting aside cartridge change outs are there any ADS200 fans here who see any advantages to the JBC CD?  Is there anything you guys admire or prefer in the JBC (or Hakko 971) or it’s just a slam dunk for the Pace?

[helius]

There is one different type of Pace tip tool (1100-0239) with a prong on the back for setting rubber cups on the DTP-80 and other similar vacuum extractors.

[Shock]

The Pace tip tool is easy and becomes very intuitive. JBC sounds easy but if you have more than a couple of tips you need to double handle them sorting face down tips to find which was which. If you use alternate storage it also increases handling.

The other downside with JBC is the temptation to load tips on its end and cause damage to finer tips or losing the solder blob when you eject it. Pace you can secure the tip at an angle and move the handle so your blob don't shake off.

The big one is you need the JBC station right next to you and that means a power cable across your desk otherwise you cannot read the display or change tips.

With the Pace tip tool I can have a few tips on the silicon pad next to me and swap them over there and not even use the stand or my larger tip rack. Pace doesn't need the handpiece in the setback stand or make contact with it to change out a tip or handpiece.

I prefer using brass wool in a Hakko container and the Pace SMT cleaning station with the two Pace cleaning tools rather than use the stand. As you can clean every tip including wider blades.

That is another problematic thing for JBC, try poking a wide blade into the brass wool rubber opening.

[Shock]

Regarding robustness I'm not sure what JBC employs to prevent over insertion of cartridges but Pace has their key system that won't allow the cartridge to physically go any deeper into the handpiece beyond a point.

It doesn't put pressure on the connector but even if it did there is an oring and washer that sort of float the connector in the back of the handpiece.

Hakko's sleeve system is a inferior plastic quality handpiece and cartridge swapping system that feels quite crunchy, they have moved away from it as of the FX971 but still looks plastic.

Here is a breakdown of the Pace TD200 handpiece. The handle body is one piece of machined aluminum which doesn't make contact with cartridge body so remains quiet cool in your hand. It sort of acts like a heatsink with an air gap. Everything appears hand assembled so can be dismantled resoldered or repaired.

Anyway buy whatever does it for you or your budget etc. Note Hakko and JBC need specific stations to run tweezers.