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Offline darik

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #875 on: January 06, 2019, 09:16:02 pm »
Here is my station and list of tips before ordering tomorrow. Does anyone see any tips that should be changed to a different type or deleted before ordering?

8007-0579        ADS200 with Instant Setback Tool Stand

1131-0003-P1   1/64" bent conical

1131-0032-P1   3mm hoof/MiniWave

1131-0019-P1   1/16" 30° angled chisel

1131-0051-P1   1/8" 30° angled chisel

1131-0037-P1   1/4" knife
 
1131-0055 -P1  1/4" chisel

I use a 3/32" chisel a lot for through hole. I also often wish I had a 3/64" chisel tip but I have a Weller and they don't make one.
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #876 on: January 06, 2019, 10:12:16 pm »
Thanks darik

I appreciate your help.

For budget reasons I need to keep it to a max of 6 tips for now so trying to come up with a balanced set. I just finished a Nixie clock using a Pro'sKit SS-989E that worked OK but wanted something better. Since a few members have had experience using this station I thought it would be best to get their input to come up with a well rounded set limited to 6 tips for now.

Any other help with the final selection I need would be great.

 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #877 on: January 06, 2019, 10:20:19 pm »
You sure you want to use all Ultra Series tips?
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #878 on: January 06, 2019, 10:24:07 pm »
You sure you want to use all Ultra Series tips?

That's a really good point. The ultra tips are bulky, I don't think I would want them for anything smaller than 1/8". I don't think they'd be helpful for 99% of the work you'd be doing with smaller tips.
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #879 on: January 06, 2019, 10:37:11 pm »
No I am flexible. But so far it seems that those that have the ADS200 seem to prefer them for the slight up charge.

Since I never used this station I wanted the expertise of those have and come up with the most used bits that can do double duty in a pinch for my application. It would be far better than using a tip that does not work well and getting a reply " I would of told you so if you asked"

I know everyone has their own style but for those with experience with this station should be able to help me with the 6 tips that will give me the best bang for the buck ,even if initially they cost a little more. This is strictly a hobby now so no production work.

I have a project coming up in a few days so I need to get this ordered in the next couple days.
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #880 on: January 06, 2019, 10:42:37 pm »
If you plan to get it from TEquipment, you may want to give them a buzz first, because it appears they're out of the station.
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #881 on: January 06, 2019, 10:43:32 pm »
Compare the Ultra 1/16" tip with the standard 1/16" tip... look how much bigger it is...

It's a reasonably powerful iron, I personally don't think I'd like the extra thermal mass on small tips nearly as much as I'd like the smaller diameter to get in to tight places.

https://www.tequipment.net/Pace/1131-0019-P1/Tips/

https://www.tequipment.net/Pace/1130-0019-P1/Tips/
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #882 on: January 06, 2019, 10:47:56 pm »
Oh and I think there's still an eevblog discount for TEquipment. Maybe someone can supply you with the code.
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #883 on: January 06, 2019, 10:51:50 pm »
If you plan to get it from TEquipment, you may want to give them a buzz first, because it appears they're out of the station.

Yes I plan to get it from TEquipment. I just want to get all my ducks in a row before ordering. That way I will not have to pay shipping and hopefully get the 6% EEV blog discount. Does anyone have the code?
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #884 on: January 06, 2019, 10:56:31 pm »
Hopefully, Cliff and Shock can also chime in here.

Here is the list so feel free to make the changes that you think will work out better. Thanks for all the help so far.

8007-0579        ADS200 with Instant Setback Tool Stand

1131-0003-P1   1/64" bent conical

1131-0032-P1   3mm hoof/MiniWave

1131-0019-P1   1/16" 30° angled chisel

1131-0051-P1   1/8" 30° angled chisel

1131-0037-P1   1/4" knife
 
1131-0055 -P1  1/4" chisel
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #885 on: January 06, 2019, 11:25:48 pm »
Maybe $3.39 for a pack of o-rings 1213-0090-P5 wouldn't hurt.. Look for the sponges too.
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #886 on: January 06, 2019, 11:44:57 pm »
Thanks Cliff

Since you have used the station what is your take on the tips and also between the Ultra and standard? What would you change in the list in the above post?  Attached is a list of all the tips in case you did not have it.
Do you have the sponge part number?

Thanks for replying.
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #887 on: January 07, 2019, 12:20:46 am »
I do very little smd or light soldering so I can't comment on subtle differences, yet.. I just know it's built to outlast me!
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #888 on: January 07, 2019, 05:40:05 am »
I do very little smd or light soldering so I can't comment on subtle differences, yet.. I just know it's built to outlast me!

In your photo of the tips, it looks like you have 1/8" chisel tips in both Standard and Ultra Series? Have you compared the two?
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #889 on: January 07, 2019, 03:32:08 pm »
I do very little smd or light soldering so I can't comment on subtle differences, yet.. I just know it's built to outlast me!
In your photo of the tips, it looks like you have 1/8" chisel tips in both Standard and Ultra Series? Have you compared the two?
No, I haven't used the first two yet, the 3rd was just put into service because I worked the 4th to death (as worn plating shows after desoldering ~30,000 parts). To really test, I'd want to solder 1/2 a project PCB with one, and 1/2 with the other.
 
One day I want to stuff-in a tiny PSU and Arduino driving a piezo for optional audio tones. It would indicate instantaneous tip-on power via R/C tc averaging to the ADC (this would help evaluate performance and tip heat transfer, while still allowing operator to focus on work). Of course, it'll need 2 panel button's to change sensitivity level's, tone's, or turn it off..
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #890 on: January 07, 2019, 03:46:11 pm »
I'm interested in which tips work best for through hole and point-to-point wiring, terminal strips, tube sockets etc. Wondering if the larger mass makes a noticeable difference?
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #891 on: January 07, 2019, 05:04:22 pm »
My standard selection and what I use the most. 1/32" 30° Chisel (0.80mm), 1/16" 30° Chisel (1.59mm),  3/32" 30° Chisel (2.38mm). Add a larger chisel if required.

Then a fine pointy tip for small smd. The blade (aka knife) and bent (aka hook) for rework and tricky angles, touch ups, wiping. A large chisel for soldered heatsinks etc. Lastly miniwave (aka hoof) tips for drag soldering. That would make a good set for me and should give anyone plenty to try out, learn using and improve their technique.
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
Multimeters: Fluke 87V, 117, 27/FM       >>> WANTED STUFF <<<
Oszilloskopen: Lecroy 9314, Phillips PM3065, Tektronix 2215a, 314
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #892 on: January 07, 2019, 05:16:22 pm »
I am thinking of these as shown in the attachment. They are the standard tips but for a hobbyist building both through hole and some smd work mostly from kits seemed like a good selection.

Shock, looking over what I am getting would I need a knife  or does this look like I will be covering all my bases?
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #893 on: January 07, 2019, 06:51:17 pm »
Shock, looking over what I am getting would I need a knife  or does this look like I will be covering all my bases?

They are quite useful for drag soldering, wiping solder bridges and components away with the edge and you can also use the point of the tip to solder. Probably the most flexible tip but when you have chisels and doing through hole not the most used. It's worth the money to learn to use, so if you have the budget pick one up, otherwise you can work around it.
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #894 on: January 07, 2019, 07:35:51 pm »
I did not have luck with a knife tip (on JBC, but it looks similar to Pace one) trying to solder SMT ICs, basically it carried too much of a solder mass on it, but maybe i did not try hard enough.
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #895 on: January 07, 2019, 07:38:37 pm »
You sure you want to use all Ultra Series tips?

That's a really good point. The ultra tips are bulky, I don't think I would want them for anything smaller than 1/8". I don't think they'd be helpful for 99% of the work you'd be doing with smaller tips.
You may want consider better plating on the ultra tips, Pace said it is more robust on the ultra tips, i guess that may mean longer tip life all other conditions being same.
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #896 on: January 08, 2019, 01:05:34 am »
Bud 

I talked to a few people including a Rep. from for Pace. For my application they all thought the standard tips would be the best choice for me.

I think I will stick to what I have listed for now and see how it goes. I also added the O-rings and an extra brass wool insert.

It ended up around $310 with the EVV Blog discount. It was a little more than I wanted to spend but I should be set for most of the projects I need to tackle.

Thanks everyone for helping me out on this. I sure do appreciate it.

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #897 on: January 08, 2019, 08:05:47 am »
It ended up around $310 with the EVV Blog discount. It was a little more than I wanted to spend but I should be set for most of the projects I need to tackle.

Thanks everyone for helping me out on this. I sure do appreciate it.

Excellent, considering its a tool you will spend countless hours on its a very low cost of ownership for what you end up with.
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
Multimeters: Fluke 87V, 117, 27/FM       >>> WANTED STUFF <<<
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #898 on: January 08, 2019, 03:24:27 pm »
Thanks Shock.
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 station (tempting durability, and just over $200)
« Reply #899 on: January 10, 2019, 09:17:09 pm »
Hey =) i just fixed my 10+ year old  espresso machine and.... tada ! Silicone o-rings in bulk.

The pace o-ring is about 8.1x4.5mm and these replacements for espresso ptfe tube is 8x4 (2) mm.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jura-Seal-100-Piece-for-Teflon-hoses-O-Ring-4-0-x-2-0-mm-VMQ/382523629210?hash=item59102f5e9a:g:r0kAAOSwaWhZyEFU

 


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