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Offline Okto47Topic starter

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Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« on: November 14, 2023, 02:23:58 am »
Hello,

Anyone got the pinout for the Intelliheat plug ?
Or the wiring diagram of their 6 to 8 pin gender bender adaptor or could measure it ?
(The adaptor to connect Sensatemp handpieces with black connector to Intelliheat stations with blue connector).

Because I can’t find a seller inside EU for it , farnell doesn’t sell it anymore and the US shops I found which ship to EU only offer very expensive shipping options ( >100$ + fees ).


Thank you.
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2024, 04:49:15 pm »
I would like to know as well!  |O
Should not be that hard to DIY one, if you know pinouts and are able to source those DIN connectors..
 

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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2024, 07:27:14 pm »
Yeah no one posts it , found that others asked the same at other forums.
And not Easy to get one if not in US.

Connector should be Amphenol C 091 B
With crimp contacts (if I remember right).
Take care of Bayonet gender and lock pin side , as booth versions exist , pin male / bayonet male , and pin male / bayonet female .

I could share what I have measured for me and works for me with (heatwise) TD-100 and (Sensatemp) THERMOJET. Haven’t verified it with other handpieces as I’m still waiting for them.
 !!!Maybe it’s wrong and work only with that thermojet!!!

First picture is the Intelliheat Station and how I have connected the handpieces and which resistance.
!! PIN numbering is not the original one from connector datasheet !!
And I drawed Thermistors everywhere but it’s of course  not , inside tip a thermocouple…..
(TD-100 , easy to open handpiece to see which side the thermistor is. Or measure if temperature is stable , ~2600Ω and only +4Ω to wrong pin ).

At my thermojet I can’t measure if at Sensatemp connector switch is between 1 and 3 or 1 and 6 as it was a demolished handpiece and I already mounted a 8pin connector on it but easy to measure if you have any handpiece with switch.

Doesn’t know about cartridge tweezer , maybe it’s same as TD-100 and heaters in parallel with full wave and each with a diode to get a half , or maybe second heater is the middle pin  ??? Will see when it’s here.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2024, 07:56:29 pm by Okto47 »
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2024, 04:21:03 pm »
Wow! Thank you Okto47 very much for this in depth post!
I've got a quote today from my local UK supplier, they ask £33+20%VAT+£15 shipping (total of 54.6 pounds, or around 70 US bucks) - quite a price for a one short cable!.. On top of that it is 6-8 weeks lead time hah  :palm:
But those Amphenol connectors cost something like 7-8 quid a pop on Farner or Mouser +20% VAT + shipping. So It is quite tempting to just order it from Pace  :-//
 

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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2024, 05:02:55 pm »
What's the part number of the adaptor? Thanks.
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2024, 05:47:07 pm »
What's the part number of the adaptor? Thanks.
Here you go: 6993-0278-P1
https://paceworldwide.com/6-8-pin-gender-bender-adapter
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2024, 06:13:49 pm »
Phil was faster
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2024, 06:35:38 pm »
I do not know the exact answer, as I only have MBT250 Sensatemp devices. However, the manual for the Thermo-tweez TT-65 does have a wiring diagram, indicating that pin 6 and 3 are for the sensor. TT-65 is not switched, so pin 1 is not used.

I have a TJ-70, I will see if I can check the switch pins.
 

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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2024, 11:18:06 pm »
That would be great , then there should be all for that adaptor.

Yeah , thought too that TT65 tweezer has sensor at pin 3 & 6 , same as  my thermojet.

I meant the cartridge  tweezer MT-100 - not Sensatemp. (Intelliheat 8pin station or heat/temp-wise 4pin station).
My TD-100 was a 4pin too, now it’s 8 pin.
Will see how that tweezer works when it’s here.

Got booth very cheap as there is not such a big interest for used 4pin heatwise handles like it is with  6pin Sensatemp or 8pin Intelliheat handles.
So great that they work at Intelliheat if changing plug or with diy adaptor.
 

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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2024, 11:46:58 pm »
Page 20 of the attached manual lists test procedures and expected values for a number of SensaTemp handpieces.
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2024, 02:08:24 am »
I ohmed my SX-70 Sensatemp desoldering handpiece. It appears the button shorts pin 1 to pin 3 to run the motor. Pin 3 is a sensor return, going to AGND. So tip/earth ground, pin 4, is separate.
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2024, 10:29:51 am »
Thanks everyone for your input 8)
I've searched Mouser and come up with part numbers for 2x connectors required.

8 pin plug:
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Amphenol-Tuchel/T-3524-501?qs=wN1CWlV6XgZWamoI1fzq3A%3D%3D
6 pin receptacle:
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Amphenol-Tuchel/T-3428-501?qs=JkAbnbMxW%252BvDPY6FFDZ8tA%3D%3D

One thing I'm wondering, in the description it states "Termination Style:    Crimp / Solder ". Does it mean they have contacts installed in them or they are just shells and appropriate contacts should be bought separately?
 

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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2024, 11:27:19 am »
Yep, they’re the Amphenol C091B series.

Mouser just has the metadata wrong. Both the datasheets and the catalog (all available on the mouser product page) list those part numbers (…-501) as being the tin-plated solder versions. The catalog makes clear that only the crimp versions (…-551) require you to buy contacts separately.
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2024, 11:40:17 am »
Lovely, thank you!

I've put em to my basket. I got several parts for my projects I would like to order from Mouser as well, so don't need to pay 15 quid for shipping just for that cable from a local Pace dealer.. :-+ And wait for 6-8 weeks! :=\
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2024, 05:18:21 pm »
Sounds good! Perhaps someone will now make a corrected diagram and parts list for making the adapter - I am too lazy as I don't need one yet!
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2024, 08:35:52 am »
Hah, indeed I'll try.. :)   :-/O

Mouser order has been placed, now I'm waiting for those connectors to arrive.
Also scored nice ST-115 ItelliHeat power supply on ebay to mate with my sensatemp handpieces.
 

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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2024, 09:19:29 pm »
I've opened my ST115 unit and measured continuity to find heater and sensor returns.
See results below (thanks Okto47 for original picture, I hope you dont mind me adding stuff on top of it ;) ):

Looks like now we have everything to complete wiring diagram of that adapter :)
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 09:24:17 pm by Phil Smith »
 

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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2024, 12:30:17 pm »
Hi y'all,
I've drawn first more or less detailed wiring diagram of the adapter. Untested yet..

If you spot any discrepancies - please let me know..
Wire gauges I took from what I've got on hands in the moment - 18 AWG for heater, and 22AWG - for everything else.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2024, 12:42:44 pm by Phil Smith »
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2024, 05:13:36 pm »
Nice, thanks for the work, Phil. I'm all Sensatemp now, but who knows what the future may bring.

You should put a title, date, and name on the final document after testing.
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2024, 10:41:52 am »
Hi,

I'll try to summarize the topic.
If there are any changes or inaccuracies, please let me know.
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This link has a disassembly of the Amphenol connector:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/pace-footswitch-connector-for-desoldering-station/
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2024, 03:04:34 pm »
Nice, thanks for the work, Phil. I'm all Sensatemp now, but who knows what the future may bring.

You should put a title, date, and name on the final document after testing.

Sure thing, thank you!  8)

Hi,

I'll try to summarize the topic.
If there are any changes or inaccuracies, please let me know.
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This link has a disassembly of the Amphenol connector:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/pace-footswitch-connector-for-desoldering-station/

Oh, that's a great cheat sheet, cheers! Good to have everything in one topic.


Regarding my progress, I've made one cable as per my original drawing and then disassembled and amended it little bit - all wires now are 22 AWG (because in original Pace Sensatemp handpieces they are all the same as well), and made it 50mm shorter. Now it looks like a bought one 8)

Revised drawing will follow.

The adapter is tested now with my Sensatemp II TT-65 Tweezers, SX-70 Sodr-X-Tractor and Thermopik connected to Pace ST-115 Intelliheat base station.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2024, 03:11:08 pm by Phil Smith »
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2024, 01:32:27 pm »
The drawing is revised as well. Enjoy!

A note regarding pin numbering - I took the pattern from physical connectors I got on hands (T 3425 501 and T 3524 501), beware of illogical pin numbering for Intelliheat connector..   :o
« Last Edit: February 16, 2024, 02:56:21 pm by Phil Smith »
 
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2024, 05:13:40 pm »
A note regarding pin numbering - I took the pattern from physical connectors I got on hands (T 3425 501 and T 3524 501), beware of illogical pin numbering for Intelliheat connector..   :o
That is the standard numbering for an 8-pin DIN connector. It's actually quite logical. (Hint: it mates with the 3-pin and 5-pin plugs, too.)

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector#Circular_connectors and in particular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector#/media/File:DIN_connector_pinout.svg
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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2024, 05:48:30 pm »
Thank you, Phil, good info to keep on hand.
Re: drawing, Americans will think the date is December 02, 2024!
 

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Re: Pace Intelliheat Pinout for 6 to 8 pin adaptor
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2024, 09:16:02 pm »
Re: drawing, Americans will think the date is December 02, 2024!
That’s why I prefer the YYYY-MM-DD date format: not only is it unambiguous to everyone, it also sorts chronologically when you apply an alphabetic sorting to it!
 


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