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Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« on: January 07, 2021, 10:24:23 pm »
Some reviews of the PINECIL are starting to make the rounds. Runs IronOS and is generally similar to the TS100 / TS80 but seems to be a better value at $37 USD shipped.

Anybody here give this one a try yet? Also curious if you think the dev board use case is legit. :-//
 
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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2021, 02:34:38 am »
It's been out for a while, but it was out of stock for the longest time, which sort of put a damper on it. I may order one now.

Obviously the shipping part of it will vary depending on what country you're in.
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2021, 02:05:38 pm »
Ralim (he of TS100 / TS80) has done an alternative firmware release for it.

https://github.com/Ralim/IronOS/releases

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2021, 03:00:13 pm »
I'm still waiting on mine from the initial batch.
Looking forward to comparing it to my TS100, will let you know when I get it and test it...
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2021, 06:24:23 pm »
And it's out of stock again, so if you were procrastinating you'll have to wait longer.

I did order one on the 8th along with the fine tip package.
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2021, 07:52:31 pm »
And it's out of stock again, so if you were procrastinating you'll have to wait longer.

I did order one on the 8th along with the fine tip package.
Nice, let us know if it's worth the cost of admission!
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2021, 11:44:49 pm »
And it's out of stock again, so if you were procrastinating you'll have to wait longer.

I did order one on the 8th along with the fine tip package.
Nice, let us know if it's worth the cost of admission!
Well, so far I'm totally underwhelmed with their ability to ship in-stock items in a timely fashion. I ordered on the 7th, and they have not yet shipped. When I inquired yesterday after 12 days of hearing nothing, they said it would ship on the 22nd. We shall see.
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2021, 02:26:00 pm »
Update: I did get a tracking number today for China Post -> USPS. Now I get to wait some more, of course.

Further update: Package took 6 days to travel from Shenzhen to Hong Kong (about 50 km), but I received it in California Feb 1st, so the actual shipping wasn't bad at all. For a grand total of 25 days from the day I ordered it.

Zero documentation comes with it, so figuring out the menu was the first challenge.
Initially used a 19V laptop power supply. Used the Pinecil to solder wires to battery clips and a 5525 plug to make myself a Ryobi tool battery adapter (18V nominal, 20.5V fully charged). I am quite pleased with its performance, although I'm still getting used to how feather-light the whole thing is. With battery operation, I have a fully portable soldering iron. There's also the option of using usb-c PD instead, but I'm not making use of that feature.

So, I consider it a decent deal for the price: $25 for the iron with one tip, $25 for a box of 4 fine tips, $12 for shipping, no taxes charged (to USA, anyway). Availability and delivery time are not fast, however. Rumor is they will be out of stock until late February if you do want one.
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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2021, 06:39:52 pm »
There are more units in stock now.  I just ordered one.  I have an original TS80, and was looking for something with a little more "oomph" for heavier stuff.  The TS100 seemed like a better choice over the TS80P (TS100 tips have better thermal mass), but there is also an argument that the original TS100 is a little outdated.  Problem solved!
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2021, 06:34:52 pm »
Just a quick update.  Got mail notification with tracking number 4 days after order.  Seems like they've gotten better.  We'll see how long it takes to get here.
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2021, 05:24:27 pm »
Final update.  Got it today, 19 days after order.  Which is really fast all things considered. 

For power, I used a ZMI zPower Turbo 65w.  USB-C to USB-C, you can use your preferred cable.  Great charger actually, totally impressed.

https://www.amazon.com/ZMI-zPower-Turbo-Power-Adapter/dp/B07D64QLQ1

I went with that over this-

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10000187409079.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.23bb3c00rzXpYg&mp=1

The zPower is smaller, and the cable can be changed easily if something happens.  Price is pretty much the same on Amazon, size and flexibility are not.
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2021, 05:11:33 pm »
Note that, just like for the TS100, the tips are not bad per se but are ridiculously long, which makes the iron very uncomfortable to use especially for SMD stuff.
 

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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2021, 07:50:56 pm »
Note that, just like for the TS100, the tips are not bad per se but are ridiculously long, which makes the iron very uncomfortable to use especially for SMD stuff.

The tips Pine64 sells for the Pinecil literally are TS100 tips. There is no difference. You can find a wider selection of tips if you check Aliexpress. Pine only offers 9 tips (the one that comes with the iron, and two different 4-packs).

Now if you want ridiculously long, it's technically possible to use T12 tips in a Pinecil. You'll have to either use the collar screw to hold it in place, or some other adapter to replicate the collar-stop that's on TS100 tips. A few people have designed adapters for T12 that let you hold it further up. But that's only relevant for people that already have T12 tips they want to use, which doesn't include me.
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Re: Pine64 PINECIL anyone? (DC jack + USB C PD/QC soldering iron)
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2021, 08:00:27 pm »
Note that, just like for the TS100, the tips are not bad per se but are ridiculously long, which makes the iron very uncomfortable to use especially for SMD stuff.

It really depends on the size of your hands. With my large hands, I find the TS100 length just right for keeping them out of the way when using a magnifier or microscope. I find the  tip length and small diameter useful for getting into awkward corners too. It really is a personal preference thing.
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