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QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« on: May 01, 2024, 05:58:28 pm »
Quick 861 Pro Lead-Free Smart Hot Air Desoldering Station

  • 1300W high power,Intelligent PID linear temperature
  • Full viewing angle HD color screen,Dynamic temperature display
  • AI voice control,Free your hands and move freely
  • Using brushless vortex fan,Long life and low noise,70L/min large air volume,Low pressure
  • cooling hibernation,Protect hot air handle,Extend heating core life
  • Compact handle, ergonomically designed

PDF nanual here

wondering if anybody already got it, would be nice to hear some impression...

PS: seems like the voice commands are a feature that once you tried you can't go back anymore...
PSS: I already PM Steve... he should do a review...
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2024, 09:18:22 pm »
If you can just say "two fifty" and it changes to 250C... maybe see it being usable for some people. But my guess is it won't be that simple.

At least they put dedicated CH1/CH2/CH3 presets on the front, those are actually useful to have. The TR1300A did not have those for some reason.
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2024, 10:06:23 pm »
There is a full list of supported commands (6 full pages). I don't know if it would understand anything else. To set 250, you would have to say "Temperature to Two Five Zero". It looks like a pretty basic voice recognition, not the modern "AI".

I don't see this being useful in a shared lab or production environment.
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2024, 01:23:41 pm »
At least they put dedicated CH1/CH2/CH3 presets on the front, those are actually useful to have. The TR1300A did not have those for some reason.

There are 4 CH presets! Big plus for me!

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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2024, 01:33:37 pm »
I don't see this being useful in a shared lab or production environment.

No doubt, this is why you can deactivate the  :wtf: "AI"  :blah:  :-X voice recognition.
I am alone in the lab.... so no issue here.

In my little experience with hot air gun, there is no point to set a precise temp.
The main work is to  adjust the gun distance and heating time by the user hand.

It is always safer to start from a lower temp, this is why a need 1 or 2 iterations by bumping the temp up to get it right.
Don't get me wrong, the more experience you have the quicker you are as always.

Anyway if I could just say something instead to press a button (by look somewhere else and/or by interrupting the soldering job) I imagine it could be very practical.
This is all in my speculations, this is why I started this thread to get a real life feedback...
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2024, 06:29:35 am »
I'm also interested in this product and hoping someone can share their experiences.

Some random questions are:

  1) How useful is furnace mode?

  2) When cooling is activated does the unit actively ramp down the temperature so to minimize
      thermal stress (i.e. something like 4 degrees C per second) or does it just completely turn
     off the heater and depend on the thermal mass of the heater to provide a "ramp")?

  3) Do nearby lights flicker or does the unit have a sufficient filter?

PS: No interest in voice recognition ... turning it off will probably be the first setting I change.
 

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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2024, 12:50:22 pm »
Seems like they are selling like hot pan cakes.
I got one from Aliexpress for $355 plus change, shipping and tax included.

Stay tuned.

  1) How useful is furnace mode?

If you are doing the same big chip reballing over and over again, I think maybe yes.
For normal every day use, not so sure.

  2) When cooling is activated does the unit actively ramp down the temperature so to minimize
      thermal stress (i.e. something like 4 degrees C per second) or does it just completely turn
     off the heater and depend on the thermal mass of the heater to provide a "ramp")?

Does it make a big difference in the heater life time?
IMHO the big point is to take the energy out when the heater is off, so it will not "cook off" with no air flow and degrade.
Also in your proposal, the cooling time will take much longer... don't know if I want that.

  3) Do nearby lights flicker or does the unit have a sufficient filter?

I hope the EMI filter is enough, if not it should be an easy upgrade.

PS: No interest in voice recognition ... turning it off will probably be the first setting I change.

I was in your position, now I'm not so sure anymore. I will give it a try and report back.
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2024, 04:42:38 pm »
My question regarding using the cooling feature was in terms of safely cooling the piece being reworked.
 

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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2024, 05:11:36 pm »
ah,

I normally do it manually by slowly increasing the distance between the gun and the board... but I rarely do that... if you need something more reproducible/controlled I would try to run a profile in furnace mode.

My guess is turn off and cool as fast as possible, anyway I will try of the cooling function and report back...
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2024, 04:08:06 am »
well a colossal failure.

The unit arrived is in chinese, everything. I can't use the voice commands.
the included paper manual is in chinese, don't know how to change the language setting.
According to the english manual online, there is no language setting.
I started the return process.

Otherwise, it looks very good!

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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2024, 09:15:14 pm »
Its a sign telling you to learn mandarin.

Maybe you can try holding airflow up/down buttons at the same time. Or pressing down and left buttons.
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2024, 04:04:29 am »
Its a sign telling you to learn mandarin.

Maybe you can try holding airflow up/down buttons at the same time. Or pressing down and left buttons.


I will not learn mandarin ah ah.... the unit also refused to turn on the voice command mode. I tried to activate them but I only got an error message in mandarin, which translated meant function not available.
Tomorrow it will go back to china...

Soo a secret combo key to change language? Can't be true...

I asked now the official quick store on AE:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806525802714.html
if I get a unit in English language and not in chinese...

I keep you posted....

First impressions

pros:
1) build quality is excellent
2) the user interface is very sexy
3) seems powerful and silent but did not play with it too much...

cons (apart for the language cluster fuuu):
1) the nozzle cable length is about 10-8mm SHORTER than my 861DW. WTF.
2) if you press the wrong arrow button, the unit jumps immediately in an unwanted function... and I went to panic mode to turn it off...
Sooo some learning curve is necessary to ride such a horse.

PS: I am the only one who would like a 10cm/20cm longer nozzle cable length?
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2024, 02:56:39 am »
ok, I give up on buying it on Aliexpress chinesium store.
I have now contacted unionrepair...
https://www.unionrepair.com/quick-861-pro-lead-free-smart-hot-air-desoldering-station.html
let's see.
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2024, 03:06:40 am »
Interesting device, I could not see it on the Quick Global website, so it does sound like it may be a region-specific product, maybe sold by mistake : (

I have the quite similar-looking TR1300A (same case shape with the ears, but with a monochrome display EDIT just noticed it is color, but mostly just black text on white), I really like it, one of the best tool purchases for me for a while. I can imagine that the unit you have is also very high-performance, except for the voice language issue : (

EDIT: Incidentally, regarding hose length/ease-of-use, I found it better when the hot air station was raised off the desk, it just curves better to reach the pre-heater. I used a speaker stand. Another nice benefit; it frees up some desk space, since in terms of size as well as performance, the unit is a beast..
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2024, 04:52:10 am »
Regarding region availability I'll note that TEquipment was happy to quote me a price.
It seems clear given the manual available from Union Repair and the various short YouTube videos that there is a flavor that supports English.
 
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2024, 01:25:29 am »
I was just thinking maybe it is only on specific country websites rather than the global one, if they have not got all-country localisation if it's a different product code per language. No idea.

Anyway, to me at least, for sure it seems like a useful feature, a great idea. If the TR1300A had a serial interface (it sadly doesn't : ( I'd probably consider adding voice functionality myself! : ) As it is, I use a little desktop timer close by to see the time (so I don't have to look away too much); if the hot air tool could do an announcement of the elapsed time at specific intervals that could be quite neat too, if it were possible.
 

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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2024, 01:18:03 pm »
There is now a youtube review in Spanish of the 861PRO, the guy says the voice commands in English.
Unfortunately in the entire review I could not see any menus, to confirm the unit was indeed 100% in English.

Now Union Repair replied to me telling the unit can be set in English language, I asked them further details.
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2024, 05:26:31 pm »
If it is the same quality of the  TR1300A will be a hot seller if they get language figured out.
 
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2024, 02:57:25 am »
Why it is so hard?



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Still no 100% confirmation it is in English but it is promising..., so I just buy it (again) and hope for the best?
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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2024, 06:26:46 am »
Do you have access to an android phone?  If so, then you may be able to use the camera with google translate to read the menus in order to find and change the language setting (assuming it's not a hidden setting).

Failing that the "sure thing" is probably to order it again from a different vendor who is willing to ensure the language is set correctly.
 

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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2024, 09:02:44 pm »
Do you have access to an android phone?  If so, then you may be able to use the camera with google translate to read the menus in order to find and change the language setting (assuming it's not a hidden setting).

Failing that the "sure thing" is probably to order it again from a different vendor who is willing to ensure the language is set correctly.

There is no real settings menu and its not in the manual. Every setting is multi keypresses or long keypresses.
I suggested some random keys for OP to try out, but I guess they didn't work.
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2024, 02:48:28 am »
Still no response from union repair.

Currently I have to sell some devices
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/(from-us-to-x)-keysight-u1282a-used-10min-mint-$400/
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-(us-to-xx)-tek-afg3252-like-new-single-owner-$3k/

to get some cash to buy it, I had some unexpected payments...
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Re: QUICK 861PRO 1300W - Voice commands
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2024, 02:03:16 pm »
Waiting for some English reviews, a closser look inside would be nice, im curious if it has SMPS or Linear power supply.
 

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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2024, 03:56:24 pm »
https://youtu.be/rApxC76Q2lg?si=Wz-5U_sGpDAiVY6J

Here is a short video with shown internals

Doesnt look good, ill stick with my Sugon 8650
 
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