Author Topic: Wittig Oszifox Penscope, Radio Shack Probe Scope  (Read 9250 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Lightages

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 4295
  • Country: ca
  • Canadian po
Wittig Oszifox Penscope, Radio Shack Probe Scope
« on: June 08, 2012, 03:34:05 am »
I have a RadioShack Probescope that I purchased in the mid 90s for $30, actually I purchased two for that price. This thread is a result of trying to not hijack another thread.

The Probescope was one of the first real attempts I had seen at making something useful in a logic probe style case, especially at 20Mhz bandwidth! They did not sell well as far as I know and they went on clearance at Radio Shack. For the time they were actually quite cutting edge. I have used mine for many little field checks and at this they excel. They are good enough ti see if something is actually doing anything and if within the correct magnitude of operation. ( http://www.eevblog.com/2012/06/04/eevblog-286-orders-of-magnitude/ )

These things were actually designed and made by a German company, Wittig. They called the thing an Oszifox Penscope. There are apparently at least two versions of the design, one with the Wittig name on the circuit board and one with the RadioShack name.

Mine:



One owned by A Hellene:


The whole front end looks different and the small IC between the push buttons had the version sticker on it.

I have yet to see anything to beat these pen scopes even today.  The most recent attempt as reviewed here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/product-reviews-photos-and-discussion/rps2050-pen-style-sope-review-teardown/  appears to be a total failure.

There is some documentation left on the web for the main chip in the scope, but some that I was able to find in the late 90s and 00s have disappeared.

http://www.htmldatasheet.com/zmd/zm407.htm

I have the full chip documentation that I printed out years ago and will scan and provide for those interested.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2012, 03:44:31 am by Lightages »
 

Offline free_electron

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7234
  • Country: us
    • SiliconValleyGarage
Re: Wittig Oszifox Penscope, Radio Shack Probe Scope
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 06:22:12 am »
a real east-german chip.. ZMD ( Zentrum Microelectronic Dresden .. )... They became part of  AMI (Audtria Microsysteme , not to be confused with the other AMI : American Microsystems )

and a COP processor from national !

I have a waaay fancier thing laying around.. i'll post some teardown pictures of it if i find a minute. An Agilent LogicDart !

Professional Electron Wrangler.
Any comments, or points of view expressed, are my own and not endorsed , induced or compensated by my employer(s).
 

Offline A Hellene

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 591
  • Country: gr
Re: Wittig Oszifox Penscope, Radio Shack Probe Scope
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 06:35:25 pm »
Thank you for the Oszifox PenScope picture and information, Les!

It seems to be the same design to the RadioShack ProbeScope I purchased in the late nineties, which was based on the ZM407 scope IC and the National Semiconductor COP880 microcontroller.

For our readers information, I purchased mine in the 1997 and paid a premium (USD ~80) for the RadioShack branding, as I wrote at the original thread. The extra components that can be seen at the top left of my PCB are a switchable 9.0 Mohm (= 4.7M + 4.3M) input resistor and a couple of capacitors that form a 10:1 AC compensated resistor divider with the 1.0 Mohm device input, in order for me to expand the 100Vpp max. input range and use the ProbeScope to reverse engineer and troubleshoot the CDI/TCI motorcycle ignition controllers I used to repair, upgrade and reprogram by that time. As expected, of course, I managed to kill the device by accidentally touching a ~300VDC output line of a CDI DC/DC converter while I was probing the low voltage section of the PCB, with the 9.0 Mohm front-end bypassed...

Though the ProbeScope was not an accurate device, it was great to give you a quick view of the waveform the probed lines had. Then, you could use the DMM or the scope for more details.


-George
Hi! This is George; and I am three and a half years old!
(This was one of my latest realisations, now in my early fifties!...)
 

Offline mikeselectricstuff

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 12027
  • Country: gb
    • Mike's Electric Stuff
Re: Wittig Oszifox Penscope, Radio Shack Probe Scope
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 09:03:24 pm »
ALthough the newer OLED units are pretty rubbish I think they still beat the OSZIFOX & similar if for no other reason that they have internal battery. More so once you add a proper on/off switch and remove the beeper
Youtube channel:Taking wierd stuff apart. Very apart.
Mike's Electric Stuff: High voltage, vintage electronics etc.
Day Job: Mostly LEDs
 

Offline Lightages

  • Supporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 4295
  • Country: ca
  • Canadian po
Re: Wittig Oszifox Penscope, Radio Shack Probe Scope
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 10:08:25 pm »
ALthough the newer OLED units are pretty rubbish I think they still beat the OSZIFOX & similar if for no other reason that they have internal battery. More so once you add a proper on/off switch and remove the beeper

Hmmmm... but are they $200 better when  paid $30 for mine? :)
 

Offline mikeselectricstuff

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 12027
  • Country: gb
    • Mike's Electric Stuff
Re: Wittig Oszifox Penscope, Radio Shack Probe Scope
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 11:22:16 pm »
ALthough the newer OLED units are pretty rubbish I think they still beat the OSZIFOX & similar if for no other reason that they have internal battery. More so once you add a proper on/off switch and remove the beeper

Hmmmm... but are they $200 better when  paid $30 for mine? :)
The cheapest OLED one, with similar bandwidth  is $105 - if you actually _NEED_ a tool like this, that's not a big deal. Cost is more of a consideration whan it's just a fun toy..
Youtube channel:Taking wierd stuff apart. Very apart.
Mike's Electric Stuff: High voltage, vintage electronics etc.
Day Job: Mostly LEDs
 


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf