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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2022, 09:02:29 pm »
From the rules post, it just states what you post is 'public domain', no copyright mentioned, I have no issue with members of the .io forum adding their own posts/content from here.
I can't see any point for the 100k+ old posts to be added, this would just end up wasting money.

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By posting on this public forum you are effectively giving up ownership of the text you wrote - it becomes public domain - people are free to quote it for perpetuity on this forum and other websites, bots are free to archive it and make it available in searches, and the forum owner is free to archive it and restore it if desired. You have no right to demand that what you wrote be removed from all parts of this forum and other people's posts. If you don't like this, don't post to a public forum like this.

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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2022, 01:08:09 am »
We've never met but are family.

Granted, we can make friends and extend our relationships beyond this kind of interaction, here. But we have to consider that the EEVBlog is not a family. It is a forum. People come here primarily to exchange ideas.

Before the EEVBlog, my favorite spot on the net was the TDPRI. It is a 25 year-old 150,000-user community about almost everything I like: woodworking, metallurgy, electronics and obviously music.

If you read their rules, you will find this:

OFF LIMIT SUBJECTS:
Some subjects cause nothing but trouble, so no posting about:
1. Politics - ZERO tolerance of anything political
2. Religion
3. Sex (including improper photos or videos)
4. Drugs - usage, laws, legality or paraphernalia
5. Current Wars or national disputes
6. Gun rights or politics


And then

SENSITIVE SUBJECTS
On a public forum it is best not to discuss intimate and sensitive subjects. Please do not post on subjects such as Divorce, Spouse Abuse, Family Fighting, Addictions, Sexual Identity, Transgender, Psychological, Mental Heath, STDs, Sexual Dysfunction, Bankruptcy, Credit Worthiness, Eviction or other subjects of a sensitive and intimate nature.


Emphasis, mine.

By the way, they have an off-topic subforum called "Bad Dog Cafe", that's why they had to create a new category called OFF-LIMIT SUBJECTS.

Forums, when they get very large, they tend to encompass a wide range of topics, however, at the same time, it seems, it becomes even more impersonal, which is incompatible with what you see with a family.
 

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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2022, 01:18:54 am »
That is originally why I suggested freezing the thread and continuing on groups.io only.

The TEA thread here will not be locked. Many people still enjoy using it every day, it is still very active.
 
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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #53 on: September 12, 2022, 01:25:27 am »
As they mention themselves there IS a copyright issue. Current terms state that the rights of any posts belong to THIS forum.

Just clarify, the EEVblog forum has the right to host the content in-perpetuity. But other sites are free to archive it, and ultimately to host it if they wish. But I agree with others that have said having two public copies is not a good idea from an SEO and confusion point of view, and I don't know why anyone would want to do that. Just start fresh, and if you need to link to a post, just link to it here. Or if you want to quote an old post from here and discuss it elsewhere, just copy that one post as needed.
 
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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2022, 05:23:22 am »
OFF LIMIT SUBJECTS:
Some subjects cause nothing but trouble, so no posting about:
1. Politics - ZERO tolerance of anything political
2. Religion
3. Sex (including improper photos or videos)
4. Drugs - usage, laws, legality or paraphernalia
5. Current Wars or national disputes
6. Gun rights or politics


An interesting difference between the rules here and what you mentioned. SEX, for what I have seen of it in the time I have been on this forum, not a problem, where as the film industry seems to portrait nerds to always be thinking about SEX :-DD

Or at least used to. Think of films like "revenge of the nerds" and "weird science"  :)

SENSITIVE SUBJECTS
On a public forum it is best not to discuss intimate and sensitive subjects. Please do not post on subjects such as Divorce, Spouse Abuse, Family Fighting, Addictions, Sexual Identity, Transgender, Psychological, Mental Heath, STDs, Sexual Dysfunction, Bankruptcy, Credit Worthiness, Eviction or other subjects of a sensitive and intimate nature.

A quite specific list of what not to post about, I must say, but these are indeed subjects that can cause disruption. But some of these have been discussed here at length without a lot of troubles.



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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2022, 06:58:54 am »
It a bit like driving a car. There are many things you can do and things you shouldn't do. Somebody who drives over the speed limit very occasionally is unlikely to get pinged. Driving the car with worse intent or negligence to others, that's a different matter.
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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2022, 07:05:33 am »
Oh Ed, now you disappoint me, I had at least expected you to say something about the SEX :-DD

But I do see your point, ill intent it not seen here that much.

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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2022, 09:27:38 am »
Interesting they have incorrectly reported the death of a TE collector last night;
https://groups.io/g/tea/topic/93608144?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3ACreated%2C%2C%23Events%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C93608144%2Cct%253D1&ct=1
Richard is very much alive and is actually downsizing his collection, I can't comment on .io for obvious reasons;
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=193112
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1498727#post1498727

The individual bears responsibility for a post, not the group :)

I did indeed word it carelessly, but "the death of a kindred spirit" may well be correct: spirit can die without a person dying. Similarly "One of us is no more" was intended to indicate that there is one less person with TEA and GAS.

I hope the sale goes well for the owner's sake.

(BTW, thanks for PM'ing me with the post; I might well have missed it otherwise)
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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2022, 03:09:42 pm »
Not happy with what I read on .io last night, certainly don't want to see all my TEA content copied to another forum.  >:(

They are already moving from groups.io to another forum?

No idea, but I thought the .io was a temporary solution, but from what I've read they can't seem to decide on a more permanent solution, I'm not on any .io forums and probably won't join another forum if they ever set one up, just don't have the time to contribute to yet another forum.

I do read it in exactly the same way as the original TEA thread here, all in one page https://groups.io/g/tea/messages?p=created%2C1%2C%2C1%2C2%2C0%2C0&prev=1

Interesting they have incorrectly reported the death of a TE collector last night;
https://groups.io/g/tea/topic/93608144?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3ACreated%2C%2C%23Events%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C93608144%2Cct%253D1&ct=1
Richard is very much alive and is actually downsizing his collection, I can't comment on .io for obvious reasons;
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=193112
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1498727#post1498727

David

Somebody has already made the same point there.
 

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Re: Emptiness
« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2022, 04:14:36 pm »
An interesting difference between the rules here and what you mentioned. SEX, for what I have seen of it in the time I have been on this forum, not a problem, where as the film industry seems to portrait nerds to always be thinking about SEX :-DD

Or at least used to. Think of films like "revenge of the nerds" and "weird science"  :)

The sex clause is there, I presume, because, unlike the EEVBlog, they used to have (don't know if they still do) prominent female users, and they wanted to avoid alienating them.

They address the question more clearly with this rule:

NO GIRLY OR CHEESECAKE PHOTOS:
The TDPRI is a "G" rated forum. And, because this is a largely male dominated forum, "guys being guys" leads to posts containing scantily-clad women from time to time. We don't allow ANY "Hot Chick", "Girly" or "Cheesecake" photos of scantily-clad women -- with guitars or not.


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A quite specific list of what not to post about, I must say, but these are indeed subjects that can cause disruption. But some of these have been discussed here at length without a lot of troubles.

I find it particularly difficult to talk about TEA without mentioning Addictions, Mental Health or Bankruptcy, but the point is precisely that the EEVBlog is not too permissive to allow absolutely any kind of discussion and be in ironic need of such strict rules as the TDPRI. It's about right, in my not so humble opinion.

The other point is to try and understand the dynamics of the behavior of jumbled clusters of people as forums are.
 
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