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12 bit Keysight... when?
CosteC:
--- Quote from: mkissin on December 22, 2023, 08:50:45 pm ---A large part of the problem with switching scope vendors is that they all use different proprietary probe interfaces.
You can very easily end up with more value in your probes than the scope itself, which means switching vendors is hugely expensive.
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Some vendors use different interfaces between series of scopes, which makes situation particularly frustrating.
Same story is with DSLRs.
BTW aren't fastest Keysight scopes using 10 bit ADCs?
tszaboo:
--- Quote from: CosteC on December 22, 2023, 05:58:48 pm ---I am under impression Keysight invests in top tier oscilloscopes and does not care about Siglent or Rigol. LeCroy seems to do similarly, just shamelessly rebrands Siglent for low end models.
Btw Keysight scopes have hi-res modes. Maybe it is enough for thier customers so far?
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Why would you care about making 10-30% on a scope for 2000 EUR, when you can sell active probes for 90%+ profit for 10 times as much? They might be making as much profit on one probe than Siglent on 100 sold scopes.
Someone:
--- Quote from: CosteC on December 22, 2023, 10:03:23 pm ---BTW aren't fastest Keysight scopes using 10 bit ADCs?
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S-series and UXR/MXR are but are $-$-$-$. Things like ENOB or noise are comparable to other 12bit ADCs but extra bits can still be useful.
mikeselectricstuff:
--- Quote from: Sighound36 on December 22, 2023, 03:13:29 pm --- and take forever to boot up.
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I'm way more interested in UI responsiveness than boot time - HP/Agilent/Keysight has always been the leader in this respect. Give me the MSOX's UI speed over the RTB/RTM's speedy boot but but horribly slow UI any day
Martin72:
--- Quote from: CosteC on December 22, 2023, 05:58:48 pm ---I am under impression Keysight invests in top tier oscilloscopes and does not care about Siglent or Rigol.
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We have a saying here which goes like this:
What does the oak tree care if a pig rubs against it... ;)
Keysight has had a completely different clientele for decades.
If you're still making enough money with it today, why bother with low-end products?
--- Quote --- LeCroy seems to do similarly, just shamelessly rebrands Siglent for low end models.
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What do you mean by shameless? In my opinion, it's a kind of concession to have something like this on the shelf in case someone asks for it. ;)
They don't make any money out of it.
At the moment Lecroy, Keysight, Tektronix have nothing to worry about
They have nothing to fear from Rigol, it's a different story with Siglent, but it will be some time before they become a serious competitor, in the sense of poaching customers, not in terms of technology, which is already not of bad parentage.
R&S, on the other hand, are doing a clever job with their portfolio.
They are already a bit further ahead than the other "big" providers.
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