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| coppercone2:
keysight not so good with business 2 business relations either even if ur fucking huge like a cthulhu, there is tension with the old gods I am starting to think that either customer relations are there, or they are not there. The supposed customer relations that magically develop between massive entities are not really there either. Maybe its lack of practice or what, but its borderline litigious. The idea that there is some kind of filter for bigger companies is well, a bit of a myth. I see simple problems fester and fester with KS. p.s. no one deals with them directly, you use a TE broker or whatever, even if F500. Last someone tried direct KS relations they basically lost their sanity. p.p.s. for those big customer only sales support people, try working out the bugs and problems with the little people so you can actually fucking help the big people. their like beta testers. your department sux. its a slow unpleasant pain in the ass and prevents work and research from getting done. chances are the guy running a single TE in his garage had the same problem we do and you might actually have fixed it by the time we had a time sensitive cost sensitive problem. and you can learn some manners and practice discourse while you are at it. its a skill you develop and maintain through conversations with all sorts of people. the greeks knew this about 2500 years ago. |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: Dan_8123 on December 22, 2023, 05:08:38 pm ---Just had that discussion with my Keysight dealer yesterday because I want to upgrade my current 3000A scope. He suggested the 4000A and when I mentioned that I'm more interested in something like the R&S MXO 4 or the newly released Tek 4 Series B (much more responsive UI than the old one) he said their only option was an EXR which costs at least twice as much, probably 3 times once you add the software packages. I'd love to stay with Keysight but their lower-end offerings just don't seem to keep up with the competition and no change in sight. He did mention on the phone that there will be a refresh of the 4000A sometime next year but couldn't give any more details than it being more of a software than hardware change. Maybe a G version? :-// Doesn't sound like there's going to be a 10 or 12-bit version or modern UI any day soon :( --- End quote --- 4000G is already out, I had a quote for one back in October. But no news on any true upgrade to that hardware — 4000A->4000G is just like 3000T->3000G: basically no changes other than throwing in most of the software options by default. |
| Anthocyanina:
--- Quote from: tooki on December 26, 2023, 07:08:19 pm --- --- Quote from: Dan_8123 on December 22, 2023, 05:08:38 pm ---Just had that discussion with my Keysight dealer yesterday because I want to upgrade my current 3000A scope. He suggested the 4000A and when I mentioned that I'm more interested in something like the R&S MXO 4 or the newly released Tek 4 Series B (much more responsive UI than the old one) he said their only option was an EXR which costs at least twice as much, probably 3 times once you add the software packages. I'd love to stay with Keysight but their lower-end offerings just don't seem to keep up with the competition and no change in sight. He did mention on the phone that there will be a refresh of the 4000A sometime next year but couldn't give any more details than it being more of a software than hardware change. Maybe a G version? :-// Doesn't sound like there's going to be a 10 or 12-bit version or modern UI any day soon :( --- End quote --- 4000G is already out, I had a quote for one back in October. But no news on any true upgrade to that hardware — 4000A->4000G is just like 3000T->3000G: basically no changes other than throwing in most of the software options by default. --- End quote --- huh, it's really out! very quiet release, 8 bits, of course, and also black. the white/beige ones looked so lovely :( |
| zrq:
Are these G version scope still Windows CE based? Or keysight finally moved away from this dead OS line (EOL 5 years ago I recall)? |
| mikeselectricstuff:
--- Quote from: zrq on December 26, 2023, 08:24:39 pm ---Are these G version scope still Windows CE based? Or keysight finally moved away from this dead OS line (EOL 5 years ago I recall)? --- End quote --- I don't think they can even buy new WinCE licenses any more, which I think is why they changed the DSOX12xx to Linux |
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