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12Bit Scope additional/replacement to Siglent 2104X Plus & Rigol DS1054Z
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Fungus:

--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on June 24, 2024, 01:30:36 am ---"which I bought before the Siglent" - he bought the Rigol, then he bought the Siglent. There ya go. 😉

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Doesn't mean he bought them for himself to use at home.
Geoff-AU:
Not sure what the benefit of all this conjecture over semantics is..

2000X Plus series is very capable for 8-bit, and it has 10-bit mode as well.

2000X HD is a great scope.  It's an older, more expensive architecture compared to the 800HD/1000HD.. but that architecture seems to provide slightly better performance in some areas (screen update rate, hardware ERES etc) that may or may not be important to the individual.  But the 2000X HD also suffers from infrequent firmware updates, and its connection for logic analyser is the "old" style which may be a concern for future-proofing.

It all comes down to where your priorities live on the performance vs cost scale.  If I had 12-bit yearnings but without 12-bit pockets I would head straight for the 800X HD  ;D  But it might not be such a leap over the 2000X Plus with 10-bit mode (depending on the bandwidth you're interested in).

tautech:

--- Quote from: Markus2801A on June 23, 2024, 06:32:19 pm ---Thank you all for your suggestions, opinions and fast replies to my topic.

I thought those new Oscilloscopes would be an "update" also regarding user interface and FFT-Capabilities.
I also want to be up to date with the new capabilities of the oscilloscopes.  ;)


--- Quote from: Martin72 on June 23, 2024, 12:24:58 pm ---In order to achieve a significant "improvement" over the SDS2000Xplus, you would have to go for at least the 2000X HD.

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Won't the Siglent 2000X HD soon be replaced by a new one? After all, it's been on the market for a while now.

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Yes in dark clothes and now available.

TBH there is little to be gained with SDS1000X HD vs SDS2000X Plus.
One is a 200 MHz design and the Plus is 500 MHz.

Plus has more features apart from the 12bit of 1000X HD and some might find HD encoders nicer to use.

--- Quote from: Geoff-AU on June 24, 2024, 04:40:07 am ---2000X Plus series is very capable for 8-bit, and it has 10-bit mode as well.

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Limited to 100 MHz BW, all models.


--- Quote ---2000X HD is a great scope.  It's an older, more expensive architecture compared to the 800HD/1000HD.. but that architecture seems to provide slightly better performance in some areas (screen update rate, hardware ERES etc) that may or may not be important to the individual.
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The HW/architecture is not so different as you might think.
Initially 2000X HD was a pricer DSO but now with many models in the Siglent range using the same 12bit ADC's pricing has been pulled back to reflect the better buying power from sourcing 12bit ADC's in greater volumes.

--- Quote ---But the 2000X HD also suffers from infrequent firmware updates, and its connection for logic analyser is the "old" style which may be a concern for future-proofing.
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:-//
Old, as in used in all the higher priced Siglent models....and for other brands also ?
SPL2016 is a top class LA probe configuration greatly surpassing SLA1016 used in 800/1000X HD models, IMHO.

--- Quote ---It all comes down to where your priorities live on the performance vs cost scale.  If I had 12-bit yearnings but without 12-bit pockets I would head straight for the 800X HD 
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100% if you only needed 12bit performance

--- Quote ---But it might not be such a leap over the 2000X Plus with 10-bit mode (depending on the bandwidth you're interested in).
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This too and the 2kX Plus will always be more scope than its 800/1k siblings.


Yet if Markus2801A needs to have a 12bit for some work the 802X HD for $340 would be a good starting point.

Markus2801A:

--- Quote from: tautech on June 24, 2024, 07:01:30 am ---
Yet if Markus2801A needs to have a 12bit for some work the 802X HD for $340 would be a good starting point.


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So maybe the SDS800 Series as replacement for the RigolDS1054Z?
Which Model (maybe SDS814X HD) should I get regarding full „upgradeability“ (hack) as I‘ve read the memory is not upgradable via software hack.
Just to get it right: Rigol DHO800 & 900 Series utilize the same Hardware. So the cheapest Model can be unlocked to highest price Model?
TomKatt:

--- Quote from: Markus2801A on June 24, 2024, 01:51:09 pm ---So maybe the SDS800 Series as replacement for the RigolDS1054Z?
Which Model (maybe SDS814X HD) should I get regarding full „upgradeability“ (hack) as I‘ve read the memory is not upgradable via software hack.
Just to get it right: Rigol DHO800 & 900 Series utilize the same Hardware. So the cheapest Model can be unlocked to highest price Model?

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Not sure what you read, but the SDS800X HD series is completely upgradable simply by entering license codes generated by a Python scrip available in the forums here.   It took me about 5 minutes to 'upgrade' my 70 MHz 50 Mpt SDS804X HD into a 200 MHz 100 Mpt SDS824X HD ;-)   So simple I hesitate to even call it a 'hack'.

Edit - I have no affiliation with this website, but rather than set up a Python compiler on my pc I just copied the code from the forums and ran it on the free online compiler at https://www.programiz.com/python-programming/online-compiler/    Note you need to edit the code to include your specific machine ID and serial number,
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