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12Bit Scope additional/replacement to Siglent 2104X Plus & Rigol DS1054Z
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Fungus:

--- Quote from: Markus2801A on June 24, 2024, 01:51:09 pm ---So maybe the SDS800 Series as replacement for the RigolDS1054Z?

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Yes, the RigolDS1054Z feels like an antique compared to the new "12-bits".

The upgrade is much more than just the number of bits in the ADC.


--- Quote from: Markus2801A on June 24, 2024, 01:51:09 pm ---Just to get it right: Rigol DHO800 & 900 Series utilize the same Hardware. So the cheapest Model can be unlocked to highest price Model?

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Yes, a DHO804 can become a DHO924 via a simple hack.

(the model is stored in a file so just substitute the file and restart the 'scope app).

nb. You can't get DHO924S - the signal generator needs extra internal hardware.
Martin72:

--- Quote ---Yes, a DHO804 can become a DHO924 via a simple hack
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I wouldn't do that.
There is no need, with the 900 series you get 2 more decoders, but he already has them anyway with his SDS2000Xplus.
Over 200Mhz bandwidth can cause problems if you don't remember that the sample rate on the Rigol is drastically reduced when using multiple channels.
If the seeker had no scope or only the DS1054Z, I would clearly recommend the SDS800X HD, as I think it is the best scope on the market for the price, overall.
But he still has the SDS2000Xplus, so I would make a different decision and get a DHO800.
A DHO804 and "gently" upgrade it to the 814.
If it's all about the low-noise 12-bit, then the Rigol.
For a single reason, which I won't mention, you'll have to come up with it yourself. ;)
If you know my review of the DHO800 and read my posts in the SDS800 thread, especially the last ones before I sold it, then you'll figure it out. 8)
And I still think that if he wants to experience a general "over-all" improvement, then he should sell his two scopes and get an SDS2000X HD.
But that's not up for debate.


2N3055:

--- Quote from: Markus2801A on June 24, 2024, 01:51:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: tautech on June 24, 2024, 07:01:30 am ---
Yet if Markus2801A needs to have a 12bit for some work the 802X HD for $340 would be a good starting point.


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So maybe the SDS800 Series as replacement for the RigolDS1054Z?
Which Model (maybe SDS814X HD) should I get regarding full „upgradeability“ (hack) as I‘ve read the memory is not upgradable via software hack.
Just to get it right: Rigol DHO800 & 900 Series utilize the same Hardware. So the cheapest Model can be unlocked to highest price Model?

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Ignore anybody that tells you that you can "upgrade" DHO800 to DHO900. They are NOT same hardware, and DHO900 is horrible and failed design. Either get DHO800 and stick with it or get something else.
Fungus:

--- Quote from: Martin72 on June 24, 2024, 09:34:19 pm ---
--- Quote ---Yes, a DHO804 can become a DHO924 via a simple hack
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I wouldn't do that. There is no need,
A DHO804 and "gently" upgrade it to the 814.

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Yes, I was just keeping the answer simple ("yes!") but the 814 with memory upgrade is the sanest variation of these 'scopes.

If you ever need the extra serial decoders (the only advantage the DHO900 has) you can switch to a DHO900 while you do that job then switch back.
Fungus:

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on June 24, 2024, 10:08:45 pm ---Ignore anybody that tells you that you can "upgrade" DHO800 to DHO900. They are NOT same hardware,

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You can enable all DHO900 software options and all DHO900 bandwidth/memory options.

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