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New (toy?) DSO, Fnirsi-138 Pro: 2.5MS/s, 2.4" screen
« on: March 02, 2022, 10:46:42 pm »
New pocket DSO from Fnirsi:
- 2.5MS/s, bandwidth 200kHz
- 2.4" screen
- with or without battery

A youtube review, saying the real bandwith is 50-100kHz: https://youtu.be/c7s6_YIaUJc

Fnirsi "official" store on aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003839624513.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.5.24c3718bE1TX09
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Re: New (toy?) DSO, Fnirsi-138 Pro: 2.5MS/s, 2.4" screen
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2022, 01:05:11 am »
Looks like a repackaged one of these:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003666640863.html

They're horrible. Not so much the 'scope (what do you want for $20?) but the user interface.  :--

 

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Re: New (toy?) DSO, Fnirsi-138 Pro: 2.5MS/s, 2.4" screen
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2022, 01:38:48 am »
I picked up a JYTech DSO138 as a kit (like the one Fungus linked to) so I could get in some SMD soldering and have something useful as a result.  (There are clones and fakes out there and JYTech were keen for people to know how to tell the difference.)

The UI is awkward, but it does work as a scope.  It is limited in what it can do, so don't expect anything serious from it and you won't be disappointed.

I did use it in anger once for a situation where I nothing else I had could do the job safely.  I wanted to see the operation of a certain signal (around 5V amplitude) in a circuit that floated at a couple of hundred volts - so I powered it from a battery, attached it and set it up before applying power to the DUT.  It performed perfectly for the task ... as a fully floating scope.



One day I might spring for some differential probes.
 

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Re: New (toy?) DSO, Fnirsi-138 Pro: 2.5MS/s, 2.4" screen
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2022, 11:28:05 pm »
A very short review and a PCB photo here:
https://www-ixbt-com.translate.goog/live/instruments/fnirsi-138.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

From the video and link above it uses a WCH CH32F103C8T6
which is a 72MHz Cortex-M3 SoC with 64k flash and 20k RAM:
http://special.wch.cn/en/mcu/

According to this datasheet the ADC conversion time is 1us
(run through google translate), so the 2.5MS/s claim may be inflated:
http://www.wch.cn/downloads/CH32F103DS0_PDF.html
 

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Re: New (toy?) DSO, Fnirsi-138 Pro: 2.5MS/s, 2.4" screen
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2022, 07:07:11 am »
According to this datasheet the ADC conversion time is 1us
(run through google translate), so the 2.5MS/s claim may be inflated:

Most likely a clone of the STM32F103C8, and if so it has 2 ADC's. When used in interleaved mode they can get 2MSa/s. Still a bit lower then 2.5. But we know FNIRSI is not shy of lying about the capabilities of the equipment they sell :-DD

By the looks of it, and already stated by Fungus, it is very similar to the JYEtech scopes. I have a wave 2, the 2 channel version and don't like it due to the restless screen. When measuring it flickers quite a bit.

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Re: New (toy?) DSO, Fnirsi-138 Pro: 2.5MS/s, 2.4" screen
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2022, 03:32:59 am »
According to this datasheet the ADC conversion time is 1us
(run through google translate), so the 2.5MS/s claim may be inflated:

Most likely a clone of the STM32F103C8, and if so it has 2 ADC's. When used in interleaved mode they can get 2MSa/s. Still a bit lower then 2.5. But we know FNIRSI is not shy of lying about the capabilities of the equipment they sell :-DD

By the looks of it, and already stated by Fungus, it is very similar to the JYEtech scopes. I have a wave 2, the 2 channel version and don't like it due to the restless screen. When measuring it flickers quite a bit.

I have a Wave2 and updating the firmware to 113-15801-080 from the JYETech site largely reduces the flickering issue.  I see that the latest firmware is now 113-15801-092.
Lots and lots of VTVM's and Triplett analog multimeters
 
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