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Products => Test Equipment => Topic started by: Cliff Matthews on November 29, 2017, 03:51:45 pm

Title: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: Cliff Matthews on November 29, 2017, 03:51:45 pm
I had a good laugh, but I've never seen this kind of turn-on circuit either. Is this considered best practice for a turn-on delay?
Also, with 1.2v chopped away from the mains voltage at crossover, wouldn't these spikes travel right through the transformer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDQeJTEHFI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDQeJTEHFI)
As is usual with this guy, I missed his editing humor at 48 sec. the first time viewing..  :-DD  Enjoy!
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: lundmar on November 29, 2017, 04:07:14 pm
Thanks for sharing. I liked the guys humor and use of subtle graphical effects :D
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: HighVoltage on November 29, 2017, 04:17:52 pm
Yes, that guy is funny.
Isn't he a member here on eevblog?
 
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: lundmar on November 29, 2017, 04:51:01 pm
Yes, that guy is funny.
Isn't he a member here on eevblog?

He must be, all electronics guys with good humor find their way to this forum ;)
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: saturnin on November 29, 2017, 04:56:03 pm
Cable detector ;D Btw. have you noticed an extra board on the top of the ADC board? Perhaps some workaround from factory?
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: rt on November 29, 2017, 05:08:20 pm

I have two pieces of test gear that came to mind at this point in the video ( https://youtu.be/HVDQeJTEHFI?t=174 ).  Can't look at them without a grin now!

... and Dave obviously missed a trick by not including the Cable Detector in the GW121.

rt
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: Cliff Matthews on November 29, 2017, 06:08:55 pm
Yes, that guy is funny.
Isn't he a member here on eevblog?
baltersice seems to be a new member, but new fame may not give him much time on EEVblog (his channel adds +100 new subscriptions per day).
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: macboy on November 29, 2017, 07:10:03 pm
I had a good laugh, but I've never seen this kind of turn-on circuit either. Is this considered best practice for a turn-on delay?
Also, with 1.2v chopped away from the mains voltage at crossover, wouldn't these spikes travel right through the transformer?
It isn't a turn on delay or soft start, it is a pre-regulator. During normal operation, the MOSFET is continuously being turned on and off, either shunting the resistor or not, in order to keep certain secondary voltages at exactly the desired level. This allows for use over a broad range of input voltages, while minimizing the associated change in the power dissipation of the linear regulators. That in turn minimizes the change in thermal (and thermal EMF) gradients across that big analog board. Those are the kind of hoops that need to be jumped through to achieve 7.5 digits.
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: baltersice on November 29, 2017, 07:26:03 pm
A new member, huh, Mr. February 2015? ;D

board on the top of the ADC board

Here's a close-up of that: https://imgur.com/34JfX3R (https://imgur.com/34JfX3R)
No idea what a TIF222 is, but since it just plugs into the 4 pins of the usual crystal osc there, I would bet that it just mimics the behavior of one?

Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: Kleinstein on November 29, 2017, 07:59:36 pm
I Don't know what the TIF222 stands for, but HCU04 looks familiar - like 74HCU04, which would be an obvious choice for a crystal.
Still odd they could not us an of the shelf oscillator in a can.
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: rsjsouza on November 29, 2017, 08:50:12 pm
Mehdi from ElectroBOOM spoiled bridge rectifiers for me - when the bridge rectifiers were shown, all I could think was that it was a FULL Bridge Rectifier!

That was a very enjoyable video!
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: saturnin on November 29, 2017, 08:59:04 pm
Thanks baltersice,

Indeed, it is a workaround instead of single can oscillator (Y800). They must have been desperate  ???
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: doktor pyta on November 30, 2017, 02:12:05 pm
baltersice,

please put a link on EEVblog any time You make test equipment- related video.
It's always nice to watch !
Title: Re: 9 minutes of TE fun with Marco Reps on Keithley 2001 repair
Post by: baltersice on November 30, 2017, 04:22:19 pm
Will try, doktor pyta. Btw I got lost clicking around on your website and saw for the first time a Keithley 640 "vibrating capacitor electrometer" ... another item for the shopping list :-\