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"A" brand instruments vs "B" brand
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noisyee:
"A" brand instruments tend to have more stable and predictable behavior over the entire product life cycle. This is important for production line usage.
Think about it, you want expand production, bought the same instruments, but they are updated to the newest firmware. All of a sudden, your new production line doesn't work as the old one. |O
Not a big deal for hobbyists or lab usage.
Also, some "B" brands are improving this problem, but still a long way to go compare to the "A" brands.
tautech:

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--- Quote from: aduinstat on November 04, 2022, 11:15:39 pm ---    Also, Siglent is Chinese, and that would not fly at work.

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Would a LeCroy T3DSO2000A be acceptable instead ?
Maybe you recognize them:
https://teledynelecroy.com/oscilloscope/t3dso2000-series-oscilloscopes

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I don't think anyone here would be thrilled if they knew what they were.

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Reality is Siglent and LeCroy have had a partnership for a decade of more where many models have been rebranded and also gone obsolete to fill LeCroy's entry level marketplace segment.

Exactly as HPAK had Rigol make their entry level products at one time.
BillyO:
Perhaps companies should look into the spin-off concept.

As an example, besides electronics and photography I also enjoy playing trombone.  There is a musical instrument company called Jupiter Band Instruments.  They are an American subsidiary of Taiwanese parent company KHS.  All the instruments are manufactured in Taiwan and China but sold through Jupiter.  They make good instruments for the student/beginner and up to intermediate players.  However, they wanted to dip their feet in the pro-level instruments, but did not want to risk the endeavor pulling their successful existing business under, so they spun of another company called XO Brass.  They took the approach of building a company to compete with he best available (without going to the customer builders) and adopted the philosophy of providing fully professional horns and fully professional prices and supporting them better than their competitors.  They result is, they are successful and getting more attention all the time.  When I ordered my bass trombone back in 2015 there was going to be a delay in getting the options I wanted so they shipped me (at their expense) a brand new on the shelf model to use while I waited.  I didn'tt even have to ship it back to them.  All I had to do was drop it off at the nearest Long & McQuade store (a big music chain in Canada).  That's service!

So, folks like Keysight, R&S and Tek could go the other way.  Spin off separate entities to address the hobbyist market and offer prices, quality and service commensurate with folks like Siglent and Rigol.  That way these spin-off are on their own to make it happen or fail without affecting the main line business.  It's good to have choices.
Fungus:

--- Quote from: BillyO on November 05, 2022, 01:18:29 am ---Better throw My Brymen 786 in the garbage then as I do use it on the mains and it has several current ranges.   :scared:

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You use your current ranges on mains AC??

joeqsmith:

--- Quote from: tautech on November 05, 2022, 01:47:34 am ---Reality is Siglent and LeCroy have had a partnership for a decade of more where many models have been rebranded and also gone obsolete to fill LeCroy's entry level marketplace segment.

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I wonder if that partnership has done more harm than good to the brand.   After Siglent going after their customer's for selling their old products on eBay,  it took me several years to even look at what they had to offer.   Buying that first low end Arb was a ball buster after seeing how poor the rotary encoder was.   I thought about getting their higher end Arb for home use just to see if it was any better quality but you never answered when I asked about it. 

I have that LeCroy 64Xi and it's case is the worse I have seen.  The knobs falling off, fine.  They made new ones that were tighter.  The front plastic bezel cracking, fine it gets a lot of abuse on my desk.   All that flimsy stamped metal inside.  Not impressed.   I do like the electronics design and the software.     
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