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"A" brand instruments vs "B" brand
Minki:
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 04, 2022, 09:10:09 pm ---Just try them both and you'll think differently for sure. Especially if you need protocol decoding. There is a thread where a forum member does a functional comparison between these scopes and the RTB2004 comes out on top for most use cases. It is a huge mistake to just go by the datasheet. 90% of makes a good instrument isn't in the datasheet.
In another thread you mentioned you are doing semi-professional photography. I doubt you are using a US $200 compact camera to take pictures. I'm not going to try and convince you that my $200 compact camera is equal to your professional camera because it has the same resolution and also has 10x zoom.
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Sorry nctnico a little bit off topic can you share the link about this ?
Thank's
BillyO:
--- Quote from: Minki on November 05, 2022, 04:19:36 am ---Sorry nctnico a little bit off topic can you share the link about this ?
Thank's
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He did.. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/functional-comparison-of-rs-rtb2000-siglent-sds2000x-and-keysight-dsox1000/msg3922118/#msg3922118
Minki:
--- Quote from: BillyO on November 05, 2022, 04:22:34 am ---He did.. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/functional-comparison-of-rs-rtb2000-siglent-sds2000x-and-keysight-dsox1000/msg3922118/#msg3922118
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Thank you because i ask before read the entire post |O |O |O |O :palm:
joeqsmith:
--- Quote from: tautech on November 05, 2022, 03:34:40 am ---
--- Quote from: BillyO on November 05, 2022, 03:19:05 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on November 05, 2022, 02:55:40 am ---I'm just trying to figure out why you think the Fluke 101 is bad value for money.
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I just feel it's an extremely limited and simple instrument. For the price you can source a good old Fluke slide switch model like a 8022 or the bench equivalent like the 8012 (or both if you're patient) that will run circles around the 101. It does have the advantage of being tiny, I'll give it that, but a modern DMM without at least a mA range?
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It's only redeeming feature is it can survive Joe's tests. $50 is a lot for some for a meter with such limited capability and for not a whole lot more you can get a Fluke DMM with uA capability.....and Joe has beat one of them up too.
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Must be referring to the 17B+. That's a fairly expensive meter without RMS. One thing I have seen over and over is these newer Fluke meters are tough when compared with most brand I have looked at. Such a big change from my first Fluke (8000A). I swear if I looked at that meter wrong, all the custom ICs were getting replaced. They really stepped up their game which I am sure what made them so successful.
Then I look at Keysight..... Rated to -20C but was pretty much done in at just under that. 100MHz counter feature my ass. Damaged beyond repair with transients that a $50 Amprobe meter survived. When I say damaged beyond repair, that in of itself says a lot! The rotary switch couldn't withstand a fifth of what I have put similar meters through. It was so bad the plastic knob broke after the contacts cut into the PCB. If that's not bad enough, it was 121GW turtle slow.
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Should also mention Keysight's lettering being easily removed.
tautech:
--- Quote from: joeqsmith on November 05, 2022, 04:53:36 am ---
--- Quote from: tautech on November 05, 2022, 03:34:40 am ---
--- Quote from: BillyO on November 05, 2022, 03:19:05 am ---
--- Quote from: Fungus on November 05, 2022, 02:55:40 am ---I'm just trying to figure out why you think the Fluke 101 is bad value for money.
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I just feel it's an extremely limited and simple instrument. For the price you can source a good old Fluke slide switch model like a 8022 or the bench equivalent like the 8012 (or both if you're patient) that will run circles around the 101. It does have the advantage of being tiny, I'll give it that, but a modern DMM without at least a mA range?
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It's only redeeming feature is it can survive Joe's tests. $50 is a lot for some for a meter with such limited capability and for not a whole lot more you can get a Fluke DMM with uA capability.....and Joe has beat one of them up too.
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Must be referring to the 17B+.
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Close, 15B, before they did the + thing. Same as 17B but different external case and button overlay.
No backlight.
Good sound basic DMM with most of the basic features you want in a DMM for electronics, the rest you can do with instruments better suited to the more advanced measurement types.
AC and DC current modes into uA and a few other bits and bobs the 101 don't have. IIRC I paid $63 for mine which is not a lot more for a lot more DMM than a 101.
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