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"A" brand instruments vs "B" brand
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e0ne199:
what would you do when your "A" brand oscilloscope got broken and it could not have service support from keysight anymore?
Fungus:

--- Quote from: tautech on November 05, 2022, 03:12:38 am ---So, same answer provided as months previous, a junior was let loose without supervision.
Since when has Dave interviewed any other TE CEO's ?  :popcorn:

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We know the excuses they gave, but two wrongs still don't make a right.
Black Phoenix:

--- Quote from: Fungus on November 05, 2022, 09:37:38 am ---
--- Quote from: tautech on November 05, 2022, 09:08:38 am ---Oh you are tiresome and fucking lazy Fungus:
15B+ is $77 and took me 2 minutes to find one, they might even be available cheaper and although that's 50% more than a 101 it's worth it.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004275532822.html

(link trimmed, it's not difficult...)

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Oh, my bad. I forgot we were in the November sales so they might be cheaper this week.

It's not the price I get when I click that link though, I get this:


(Plus I'll have to pay 20% VAT, but I'll ignore that for the sake of argument).

The Brymen you're trying hard to ignore is the BM805s, which I can get all year round for 58 Euros.

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Expensive even in sale for that model. I can get the 17B+ directly in the Huaqiangbei Electronics Market by talking with the owner of the shop that fill my electric and electronic needs here when I need something urgent and can't wait for 2 day delivery.

570RMB the last time I check, last week.

I've been thinking of buying one to offer to a neighbour kid here who is into Arduino (my fault, he saw me some time ago fixing some gaming consoles and got curious, pick up his Chinese new year money and bought a kit for himself) and I want to make him start to do small projects in a breadboard. I already got him some boards and discrete components so just missing the DMM.

Could give him a Uni-T but I'm more knowledge in Fluke than the Uni-T offerings. Just a small Christmas present for a kid who study like hell every single day because of their family (culture related, not going to force my own believes - school then extra classes and after arriving home is study until midnight/one every single week day) and the only small time he have free spends playing with Arduinos and playing football (soccer for the ones on the other side of the Atlantic) with my kid.
balnazzar:

--- Quote from: aduinstat on November 04, 2022, 11:33:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 04, 2022, 11:23:44 pm ---I hope nobody is looking at the back of the Tektronix then. Likely it says 'made in China'.

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Yeah, but the company itself is American.

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Tek makes the majority of its scopes in the US. The 2 series is made in China, but Tek *owns* those factories, and controls all the steps in the manufacturing process.

As for the general discussion, Billy is comparing products that belong to different market segments (2K+, 2K HD, RTB2K). The true-12bit scope should be left out of the comparison because it belongs to another tier with respect to the other two, and it has been made with the Lecroy brand in mind. Even the knobs/buttons are different from the other Siglents, and as some report, it's extremely silent.


BillyO:

--- Quote from: nctnico on November 04, 2022, 10:06:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: BillyO on November 04, 2022, 09:35:01 pm ---The truth is the Siglent out performs the Keysight.  The $200 compact camera does not come close to an SLR system with a full range of lenses.

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And I'm telling you the latter is also largely true for the former. Largely where is comes to useability but the RTB2004 is even better.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/functional-comparison-of-rs-rtb2000-siglent-sds2000x-and-keysight-dsox1000/msg3922118/#msg3922118

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After many hours of videos..  I have to say that the RTB2004 is a nice scope.  However ..  to get the R&S with the options that came with the Siglent I'd have to spend $5725.  That is $4725 more than what I paid.  The little extra niceties that the RTB2004 offers are not worth that for me.   Not by a long shot.

Then there are the things the Siglent has that R&S doesn't like deeper memory, more accurate time base, faster WFCR, and a few other things that are probably not that important like higher frequency internal generator (I have an external generator that is far more useful).

Then there is also the hackability of the Siglent which can get me a scope that even $8500 spent on the R&S would not get me.

So, thanks for pointing me to that series.  It was very informative and has assure me I made the right purchase for my needs.
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