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"A" brand instruments vs "B" brand
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Fungus:

--- Quote from: BillyO on November 07, 2022, 01:35:43 am ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 07, 2022, 01:11:32 am ---Not quite. GW Instek has been around much longer and has a much bigger revenue. They certainly have carved out a place in the professional market for a long time already. Their gear typically works as it should (or it gets fixed quickly) and they offer a much wider range of instruments.

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So you'd put them in the A group?

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As noted many times: "A group" has very little to do with the quality or abilities of the instruments (they can often be worse!). It's all about the support contracts, traceability, name recognition, etc.

(eg. "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM")
balnazzar:

--- Quote from: BillyO on November 06, 2022, 11:55:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: Hydrawerk on November 06, 2022, 11:03:39 pm ---Any thoughts on GW Instek? It should be probably OK.

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They make some real nice stuff.  Generally speaking right in there with Siglent and Rigol.

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VERY different kind of product. Made to feel very responsive and analog-like (a-la Keysight), but with less features w.r.t. Sig and Rigol (e.g. FRA, etc...) for the same price tag.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: BillyO on November 07, 2022, 01:35:43 am ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 07, 2022, 01:11:32 am ---Not quite. GW Instek has been around much longer and has a much bigger revenue. They certainly have carved out a place in the professional market for a long time already. Their gear typically works as it should (or it gets fixed quickly) and they offer a much wider range of instruments.

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So you'd put them in the A group?  I'll go with your estimate here as I don't have hands on experience with GW Instek.  I was just gong by what I've read or seen on YT.

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I'd put GW Instek in the Sub-A bracket. From what I see GW Instek optimises to deliver good equipment at a lower price that doesn't have so much advanced features so it takes less engineering & testing time to develop. Also they seem to be better at re-using software from earlier models so features implemented in earlier models get pushed forward to newer models.


--- Quote ---I think you will see Siglent make serious inroads into the professional market over the next decade.

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They may try but for as long as Siglent doesn't get firmware functionality & regression testing in order, they won't succeed. The professional market is all about being able to trust your test equipment. And by the time they succeed, Siglent gear will be just as expensive as buying from established A brands.
Domitronic:

--- Quote from: Martin72 on November 04, 2022, 11:33:31 pm ---
Or spareparts...Knob is lost ? no problem, here you have a new one.


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Thats not valid for Tektronix. Asked them how much a repair of a knob on a 10 year old scope is. The encoder seems to be broken. Answer was that they don't even know if they have the part. I have to send the scope to Tektronix, and then they will check. This check costs already 700 Euros. And if they find they can't repair it because they don't have the part anymore the 700 Euro are gone.


Edit: The scope was already 13 years old at the time of the request for a quote.

Fungus:

--- Quote from: Domitronic on November 07, 2022, 11:46:17 am ---I have to send the scope to Tektronix, and then they will check. This check costs already 700 Euros. And if they find they can't repair it because they don't have the part anymore the 700 Euro are gone.

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That's as an individual. You'll never see that if you're a corporate user because it'll be covered under your service contract.

And we're back to "the difference between 'A' and 'B' is the customer, not the product"
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